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MrBMW 08-26-2009 12:10 AM

Fast Intentions RTP's & CF Mufflers & Stillen G3 Intakes+Dyno.
 
Update Post #2 with Fast Intentions Install:tup:.

Hi all, Firstly I want say I added the Fast Intentions Exhaust to the title even though I have gotten that in yet. Hopefully it should be close to the first week of Sept sometime and didn’t want to start a whole new thread on it. Also it will give a great comparison for everyone to see.

Now on to the fun stuff. I received the 3* (Aus370 and Ellz) Stillen G3 Long Tube Intakes yesterday from Import Parts Pro (big props to Kyle:tiphat::tup: for all his help with this). We had a few issues on our end in Australia with banking and exchange rates. Kyle couldn't have been more accommodating and helpful with this. The packaging was first rate and not a mark or scratch on any of the parts at all.

Also a big shout out to Hi-Power Performance at Slacks Creek who were able to get all 3 of us in and done yesterday. With no warning I turned up there with my Car Dealer who knew them and they were very happy and helpful in getting it done straight away :tiphat::tup:.

Delivered,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...elivered-1.jpg

Packaging,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ackaging-1.jpg

Parts,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ds/parts-1.jpg

Now for the install itself it pretty much went off without a hitch at all. Basically pretty much everything was as per the instructions that you get with the kit. We didn't even have to cut quite as much for the intake piping to go through (Photo 4 in the instructions). Another thing we decided to do was cut off part of the screw (a couple of mm) that holds the Horn as it protrudes a bit into the Pod filters themselves, with that done the Pods just rest on it now. Other than the above it took a bit longer to do mine as it was the first one they had done, then the others guys cars they just flew through it.

There were a couple of things to be a little careful of say like the Front Airbag sensor for example which are not in the Instructions. Mind you this could be because our cars a slightly different to the US counterparts.

Before Front End,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...rontbefore.jpg

Engine Bay Before,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ginebefore.jpg

Left Intake Off,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ftbefore-1.jpg

Right Intake Off,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ightbefore.jpg

Front End Off,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n.../bumperoff.jpg

Right Side Done,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ftintake-1.jpg

Left Side Done,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n.../rightside.jpg

Pods Close Up,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n.../Mods/pods.jpg

Pods With Bumper Back On,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...sinstalled.jpg

Installed,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n.../installed.jpg

I was also lucky enough that the owner of the Workshop wanted to see what the car would do and offered to do a Power run for a before and after comparo. It was a very warm day for this time of year in Aus. The temperature was at 34c+ (94.2f) in the Dyno area, outside ambient was about 32c. I am personally very happy with both the Stock run (before) and after run of the car. The numbers are pretty much bang on to what the guys in US are getting. With generally our Dynos reading slightly lower.

To be honest Dynos for me are just a tuning tool and to help give an idea of gains seen from certain parts. I just hope when we get the Exhausts done, that the temp/humidity is very much similar to give a fair comparison.

So here is the first run a before if you will,

Prepping for Dyno,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...ynoready-1.jpg

Dyno with Bumper ON,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...dynoreadyl.jpg

Before,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...Dyno1forum.jpg

With Parts Installed,
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...Dyno2forum.jpg

So we see an increase of 15atwhp. Also there was a slight increase in Torque. All the gains were in the Top end, say the last 1500rpm which is what I personally expected. On the road I do believe there is noticeable difference, not so much in all out power but more on delivery. It does feel a decent amount more responsive all through the rev range.

You do have a nice induction noise under full throttle, which also adds a small amount to the exhaust side of things as well. At cruising speeds 40,60,80,100kmh it sounds no different to stock, until you actually prod the throttle a bit. Theres is also definite room for improvement in the fueling side of things. It appears we run very RICH in Aus, which is probably just Nissan playing it safe with a lot of our fuel being crappy and playing to the lowest common denominator.

Now hopefully only a couple more weeks for the Fast Intentions, Resonated Test Pipes, 18” Resonator Exhaust with CF Mufflers. Once that is in I’ll update a 2nd post below with numbers and pics. I’ll also try and get my hands on proper Video Camera for the Dyno Runs, plus do some drive bys as well.

All the Stillen G3 Intake PHOTOS.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 12:10 AM

Reserved for Fast Intentions Exhaust Review.

Here are some videos i did yesterday after i had the Fast Intentions - Resonated Test Pipes, Cat Back and Carbon Fibre Mufflers installed on Friday. I am going to do a full write up here next Monday after i have given the system a chance to burn in and go back to the Installer to get all the bolts etc. checked that everything is all OK.

A quick first impressions though. This is quite a LOUD set up. If you drive aggressively 100% of the time, no doubt you will piss off your neighbours LOL. Mind you this is not a bad thing at all and Tony has mentioned with the RTP's it was going to be loud. At first it was LOUDER than i expected, but that is comparing it to other cars i have had previously.

Now that i have driven it a few times it certainly has grown on me and i have learned to drive with/around the loudness of it. Example, say driving down my own home street. I don't give it hard acceleration, i sort of just roll with the revs if that makes sense.

As for extra power, we did do a quick Dyno run and it netted us with 295hpatw. There was a minimum increase of at least 10hp across the board. The other good thing is the ECU has "Learned" from the last Dyno run also. As the AFR's are now spot on. I didn't get the printout as i wanted to give it a week of driving and when i go back for the check up will get it done then. Will also add pictures later also.

So heres a the Cold Start Up. I did this yesterday morning around 0830 and don't forget this just from a point and shoot camera. It still does give a good idea of the sound to be expected. You do need to turn up the Volume though:tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jGTKsgDIU

This first one starts in an underground car park, then onto a normal road with cruise set @60km in 5th gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHVhUMjCpgY

This one is going onto the highway with hard acceleration in 2nd-3rd gear. Then i set cruise @100km in 6th gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quoj7n1w7x8

Lastly just a little blast into a corner with 2nd-3rd gear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2kgV6sSYX4

MrBMW 08-26-2009 12:14 AM

Oh, BTW do any other Aussies have any mods done yet. Besides the one that has the Hitech Exhaust on it.

Anyone that is thinking of getting the Stillens you have gotta get it done. It's a great addition and i'm sure Aus370 and Ellz would agree.

Aus370z 08-26-2009 12:39 AM

Nice write up Scott !!

Cant wait for Round 2 of the parts to arrive !!

Ellz 08-26-2009 01:08 AM

Weeeeeeeee!

MrBMW 08-26-2009 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aus370z (Post 169780)
Nice write up Scott !!

Cant wait for Round 2 of the parts to arrive !!

I reckon round 2 is going to be nuts. Hopefully we finish it late in the arvo. We are going to aahhmm terrorize that street for a minute or 2 LOL.

Thanks for the props also. Hopefully you and Ell' can add your thoughts as well eh!

MrBMW 08-26-2009 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellz (Post 169806)
Weeeeeeeee!

WTF LOL. Dont know about Weeeeeee, but i suppose it was a bit like that leaving the workshop:driving::happydance:.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 01:15 AM

Ah, just remembered something. Dont forget the water;)

bezzita 08-26-2009 01:31 AM

Nice gain...! I cant wait to get mine!

MrBMW 08-26-2009 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bezzita (Post 169836)
Nice gain...! I cant wait to get mine!

Hey bezzita. I noticed you are getting the F.I. Exhaust as well. Which combination are you going to get. Also are you planning on the Stillen G3's or some other intake setup.

bezzita 08-26-2009 03:16 AM

Yes, I am getting SS FI cat-back with 12" resonator with HFC, Stillen G3 and Stillen UD pulley. Hmm probably I will dyno the car before and after each mod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBMW (Post 169849)
Hey bezzita. I noticed you are getting the F.I. Exhaust as well. Which combination are you going to get. Also are you planning on the Stillen G3's or some other intake setup.


GTRFAN 08-26-2009 04:55 AM

I'd be really interested to see the run when you fit the exhaust. The A/F ratios are not optimal at all. Is a tuned ROM on your list?

nismostu 08-26-2009 06:11 AM

Great write up - thanks for sharing. Very informative.

gromano 08-26-2009 08:22 AM

Nice write up Mr BMW... looks great, makes the engine bay look alot meaner i reckon.

I got my car dyno'd the other day with some friends (they all own hondas) lol and got 265.1bhp completely stock... different dyno's/different days i guess!!

They also mentioned to me that it was running very 'rich'. What exactly does that mean?? How do the intakes help with this u say?

Cant wait till you boys get the other stuff on too, wanna go cruising and see/hear it all in action :D :D :D

Let me know when it happens and we can go for a drive!

hey ps. keep a note of how much everything costs you will ya ;) Coz im thinking of doing the same eventually...

GMZ 08-26-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bezzita (Post 169883)
Yes, I am getting SS FI cat-back with 12" resonator with HFC, Stillen G3 and Stillen UD pulley. Hmm probably I will dyno the car before and after each mod.

You should receive your exhaust by Sep 3 :tup:

MrBMW 08-26-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bezzita (Post 169883)
Yes, I am getting SS FI cat-back with 12" resonator with HFC, Stillen G3 and Stillen UD pulley. Hmm probably I will dyno the car before and after each mod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMZ (Post 170043)
You should receive your exhaust by Sep 3 :tup:

Great stuff bezzita. I'm sure you will be stoked with the Exhaust setup. Everyone so far seems extremely happy with the F.I. setup so far. The sound and Power gains that have been had are great.

You'll probably get yours before us now damn it. Dosnt matter it's going to be great once they do get here.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 169909)
I'd be really interested to see the run when you fit the exhaust. The A/F ratios are not optimal at all. Is a tuned ROM on your list?

Hey there GTR', firstly some great pics in your journal thread mate. Hopefully on our next cruise we can get some along those lines.

Now as for the AFR we were all a bit surprised. More so the Mech's and Tuner that is (I love my cars but only have very basic understanding of some things). The two main conclusions they came to and I would agree are:

1-Nissan have decided to run our cars much richer than the US/Japan Spec cars due to our generally lower grade fuel. This seems to be the case with most JP cars as we seem to have a lower rated HP rating on a lot of cars. I personally have always run BP Ultimate and have had my best results from that fuel.

2-Their O2 sensor might have been off as well (think thats what gets the AFR). As this was just a PWR run there was no REAL calibration done. It was just for a before and after comparison.

As for a tune I'm definitely in for an ECU of some sort. Haltech are meant to be in the process of doing a dedicated one for the 370Z like they did with the 350Z. If we are generally running that rich there is some great room for improvement.

On that note, when your tail pipe is getting blackish, that is generally from a car running rich yes?

MrBMW 08-26-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismostu (Post 169938)
Great write up - thanks for sharing. Very informative.

Thanks for the compliment Stu. Anyone with questions please fire away as there a few of us now that have the intakes and will be getting the exhausts as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gromano (Post 170034)
Nice write up Mr BMW... looks great, makes the engine bay look a lot meaner i reckon.

Hi gromano, also thanks for the compliment mate. It definitely makes the engine bay look better that's for sure. One point the Mech's made is that hopefully a clueless Cop dosnt pull us over as they might think it's a Turbo kit as you cant see the filters. My first ever write up so trying my best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gromano (Post 170034)
I got my car dyno'd the other day with some friends (they all own hondas) lol and got 265.1bhp completely stock... different dyno's/different days i guess!!

Nice number for a base run mate. As we all know Dynos vary so much from place to place and brand to brand. The main thing to keep in mind is that it is just a tuning tool and that you can hopefully go back to the same place to get it re-done once you get some mods. I'm more than happy with what I got as it was a pretty damn hot day for this time of year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gromano (Post 170034)
They also mentioned to me that it was running very 'rich'. What exactly does that mean?? How do the intakes help with this u say?

Now the other more mechanically minded guys will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong here (]Wiki AFR[/COLOR]) is that Rich means more Fuel is going in. I think for our cars anything under 12.5:1 is a rich mixture. Also generally the AFR gets richer higher in the RPM range to make sure there is no pinging. There could be a sticky on here about that but havnt looked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gromano (Post 170034)
Cant wait till you boys get the other stuff on too, wanna go cruising and see/hear it all in action :D :D :D

Let me know when it happens and we can go for a drive!

hey ps. keep a note of how much everything costs you will ya ;) Coz im thinking of doing the same eventually...

Definitely up for the cruise mate. Just cant wait to get the exhausts done and put the foot down to HEAR what it's like. I reckon we will see some nice gains again without the Stock Cats being in place. We are getting the Resonated Test pipes and from F.I. testing they gained about 4-6hp more than the other combos. Although they were only running the stock intakes, so hopefully we might gain a bit more.

As for costs I do have all that down. As long as the other guys are ok with it, I have no problems letting people know what I paid. That way people can get an idea of what to expect. Also comes down to what the exchange rate is at the time.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 07:09 PM

Heads UP to check this...
 
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Just wanted to give a little heads up to the other guys that have this installed and also who plan to get it done. After going for spirited drive yesterday with my dealer (crazy man LOL). I noticed a slight knocking noise that wasn't there before.

I'm not sure what part this is, but on the Passenger side it was a bit loose, so all I did was loosen the Hose clamp and push it in a bit more and re-tighten. The driver side was fine. Once i re-tightened the knocking noise was gone. Just something very easy that could be missed and hopefully any other issues that might arrise we can sort out.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 08:32 PM

Youtube.
 
Hey Guys,

Just took the car for a quick spin around the block and got a little video. It's only from a Point & Camera, but it does give an idea of the sound for the Intakes. It was done with the windows down and 2nd gear. Will try for a better effort later.

You will need to turn up your volume a bit though LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE6FXgWM9Uo

AH370Z 08-26-2009 09:42 PM

Well Done on doing the install and getting the review to us. However I dont see that these intakes are worth the $$$ considering you only get the gains over 6500rpm and you are actually losing torque in the lower rev range and a fair amount between 1500 and 2000rpm.

I also think that its another story once the bonnet is closed and you dont have a big fan blowing air directly in the engine bay.

I think the forced air system that Modshack has made is the way to go, but also may work very well in combination with the G'3 or the new R2C intakes which I hope bring some good results.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AH370Z (Post 171662)
Well Done on doing the install and getting the review to us. However I dont see that these intakes are worth the $$$ considering you only get the gains over 6500rpm and you are actually losing torque in the lower rev range and a fair amount between 1500 and 2000rpm.

I also think that its another story once the bonnet is closed and you dont have a big fan blowing air directly in the engine bay.

I think the forced air system that Modshack has made is the way to go, but also may work very well in combination with the G'3 or the new R2C intakes which I hope bring some good results.

Thanks for compliments first off. Now as for $$$ per HP gained, as I have stated for me at least it's more to do with sound and functionality. As for the gains only being up top, thats to be expected. The stock ones are the restrictions in that range. Yes, you wont be driving at 6k+ all the time, but when/if you want to Track/Drag the car it will be helpful. Also it's a personal thing and each to their own. Some want bling, some want performance. If there was TT or SC kits out i would've done that, but there's nothing for now.

Also if you look at the graph again, the After run starts earlier on the graph. It's just a calibration thing thats all. So it's pretty much line ball till about 5200 (TQ) and the Stillen's keep it up for longer (was also mentioned in this same thread that i posted in the Intake/Exhaust section). Also why is that people go on about Bonnet Up/Down. I can understand it when say the bumper is off as thats where the PODS are. To be honest those fans are not going to push the amount of air the car will see when you're doing 5k rpm, in 4th gear.

Will also have to have another look at Modshacks site again. I did have a quick look a while ago, but I though the Forced air mod wasn't going to be as beneficial due to where the PODS are with the Stillen's.

Edit - Added larger dyno sheet, so it's easier to see results/compare.

MrBMW 08-26-2009 11:29 PM

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Hey AH370Z, is this the MOD from modshack you are talikng about. I cant see how that would help the G3's though. It looks like it would help the Stock Intakes or something like the R2C's.

The Stillens are mount dead centre in front of the radiator, so we get direct airflow from the front spoiler.

GTRFAN 08-27-2009 04:56 AM

The A/F ratio is constantly adjusted by the ECU for engine load, speed, ambient air temp, etc. Yes 10:1 is very rich but its perfectly safe and kind of normal for a factory tune. A well managed aftermarket ECU like a Motec or the new Haltec will be able to keep the A/F in a slightly leaner range and make more power safely. The enemy to a lean A/F ratio is pre detonation, so going too lean is not a good idea.

Ellz 08-27-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBMW (Post 171289)
Just wanted to give a little heads up to the other guys that have this installed and also who plan to get it done. After going for spirited drive yesterday with my dealer (crazy man LOL). I noticed a slight knocking noise that wasn't there before.

I'm not sure what part this is, but on the Passenger side it was a bit loose, so all I did was loosen the Hose clamp and push it in a bit more and re-tighten. The driver side was fine. Once i re-tightened the knocking noise was gone. Just something very easy that could be missed and hopefully any other issues that might arrise we can sort out.

Went and checked mine last night before a drive and I found a loose clamp. Hadn't come off, but would have eventually.

Guess they rushed mine a bit to get it out so they could close.

Aus370z 08-27-2009 07:49 PM

Hmmmmm going to go check my car !

MrBMW 09-27-2009 07:08 PM

Updated Post #2 with videos and install.

MrBMW 10-04-2009 05:51 PM

Some new videos added.
 
Hey guys, heres dome videos that i did yesterday, I have the Resonated Test Pipes, TDX Cat Back Exhaust and Carbon Fibre Mufflers. Thanks to wife for holding the Video camera (some shaky moments LOL).

Fast Intentions RTP's CBE CF Muffler - Launch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSf77Q4zyvE

Fast Intentions RTP's CBE CF Muffler - Drive By's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-cGfs5AGs

Fast Intentions RTP's CBE CF Muffler - Mountain Run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hWsdpHSFlI

Fast Intentions RTP's CBE CF Muffler - Driving Around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN6VIUSQ8Fg

markymark 10-04-2009 07:34 PM

Awesome vids mate, thanks for posting them up

That last driving around vid - she really does sound like a lambo/exotic when u open her up :tup:


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