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boardingnath 03-25-2010 03:31 AM

Dodgy in a good way for you!!

Pharmacist 03-25-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 463200)
How's your car now? Still have all the fuel lights on with the new senders?

Whats confusing is my dealer just did more testing and have concluded that the issue is actually with the cluster and is ordering a replacement. A new cluster will also reset the Odometer which is a bit dodgy. He said this can't be adjusted.

Not sure if I want to bother with it now...

what testing did he do? and how did he conclude the cluster is bad? and which part of teh cluster? the led strip? if that is what's bad then why does the led occasionally come back on?

spearfish25 03-26-2010 10:45 PM

I'm having the fuel sensor issue now too. The Techron fix is garbage. The problem actually started AFTER a tank with Techron.

Looking at the sensors in the service manual, they are simple float sensors. With the last dot not lighting up, it seems the passenger side sensor is the issue (this float reads the upper level of the tank). I may try pulling out the fuel pump and sensor just to have a look. Maybe just bending the float arm a touch will fix the issue. Hell, my gauge worked fine for 9k miles and only now it's F'd up.

Pharmacist 03-27-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 466517)
I'm having the fuel sensor issue now too. The Techron fix is garbage. The problem actually started AFTER a tank with Techron.

Looking at the sensors in the service manual, they are simple float sensors. With the last dot not lighting up, it seems the passenger side sensor is the issue (this float reads the upper level of the tank). I may try pulling out the fuel pump and sensor just to have a look. Maybe just bending the float arm a touch will fix the issue. Hell, my gauge worked fine for 9k miles and only now it's F'd up.

you know what spearfish, i totally agree with your first statement. at first it was only the last LED that didn't come on. and as of a couple of months ago, it occasionally began to come on intermittently, and then after that when i used the techron for the first time, I immediately lost the 2nd LED too and the 3rd also most of the time doesn't come on. I can't prove that techron made it worse and I can't imagine why it would, but it does seem a strange coincidence that i lost two more LEDs right after the techron treatment.

Yutzi 03-28-2010 04:20 PM

Well i have had my sensors fixed for 3 full tanks now and not an single issue.

When i first got the car and all the lights were working (for the first 5-6K kms) i also found the fuel level reading very inconsistent, from full tank to empty, this issue seemed to have been fixed also. This might of just been me though. :)

Brighton Nissan - Quoted 7-10 working days to have new parts in, I was called withing that time and they had the car fixed within a week of parts arriving.

gumpy 03-28-2010 04:44 PM

My car has been working perfectly for the last month and a half since the initial problem... for me i figured it was the top part of the sensor being scrubbed a bit after i left the car for two weeks on a business trip...

Anyway it's been 3 weeks since the last refill for me due to another business trip, will see if the last dot survived or not since the last refil

spearfish25 03-28-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Yutzi (Post 469352)
Well i have had my sensors fixed for 3 full tanks now and not an single issue.

When i first got the car and all the lights were working (for the first 5-6K kms) i also found the fuel level reading very inconsistent, from full tank to empty, this issue seemed to have been fixed also. This might of just been me though. :)

Brighton Nissan - Quoted 7-10 working days to have new parts in, I was called withing that time and they had the car fixed within a week of parts arriving.

How long were you without your car? Did they quickly diagnose the problem, give you the car back, and then you brought it back when the parts arrived? Or did they keep the car the whole time? And it took them a week to install the sensor? It's easy...doable in about 20-30 min...

Yutzi 03-29-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 469563)
How long were you without your car? Did they quickly diagnose the problem, give you the car back, and then you brought it back when the parts arrived? Or did they keep the car the whole time? And it took them a week to install the sensor? It's easy...doable in about 20-30 min...

I mentioned the fuel guage issue when i took it in for its 10K service. Service manager told me about the fuel senders when they called to mention my car was ready (after service) to pick up. When at the dealership he mentioned the parts will take 7-10 working days to arrive. Had my car until the parts arrived.
Once parts arrived they had the car for a couple of hours to fit the car in and replace the parts that caused the issue.

All in all pretty happy with the service.

GTRFAN 03-29-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yutzi (Post 471278)
I mentioned the fuel guage issue when i took it in for its 10K service. Service manager told me about the fuel senders when they called to mention my car was ready (after service) to pick up. When at the dealership he mentioned the parts will take 7-10 working days to arrive. Had my car until the parts arrived.
Once parts arrived they had the car for a couple of hours to fit the car in and replace the parts that caused the issue.

All in all pretty happy with the service.


Hey Yutzi, was this at Brighton Nissan? The guys at Blackburn diagnosed mine to be the dash cluster and I think they're wrong. If you're happy with the new senders and have run a few tanks, then I'll ask Blackburn to call your service manager at Brighton and have a chat. We need to be 100% sure the senders fix the issue though....

any info regarding the date you had this fixed and the contact names would be helpful. Thanks

Yutzi 03-30-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 471662)
Hey Yutzi, was this at Brighton Nissan? The guys at Blackburn diagnosed mine to be the dash cluster and I think they're wrong. If you're happy with the new senders and have run a few tanks, then I'll ask Blackburn to call your service manager at Brighton and have a chat. We need to be 100% sure the senders fix the issue though....

any info regarding the date you had this fixed and the contact names would be helpful. Thanks

Hi GTRFAN

Yeah it was Brighton Nissan.
I dealt with the service manager there, cant remember his name though. But he diagnosed it as the senders, replaced them and it has fixed the problem.

Yutz

GTRFAN 03-30-2010 10:48 PM

Thanks Yuts

gumpy 04-07-2010 05:38 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH my car's final light is out again...

GTRFAN you were correct... =(

I hate nissan so much right now...

GTRFAN 04-07-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 485689)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH my car's final light is out again...

GTRFAN you were correct... =(

I hate nissan so much right now...

So did you have one sender replaced like Yutzi and now the issue is back? Hmm yeah it looks more like Blackburn were right about some part in the cluster... I'll find out exactly what they said it was. I think both senders in the tank send an electronic signal to the cluster and the electronics interprets both signals and displays the LED and the average fuel, etc.

I really don't want to have my cluster swapped out as the Odometer gets reset and can't be changed. Initially that seems like a free clock wind back, but when it comes time to sell the logs books wont match and it'll look really dodgy even though it's not.

Let me call Nissan and get all the details and then I'll demand a free set of 19" for compensation.

Farkers

gumpy 04-07-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 485721)
So did you have one sender replaced like Yutzi and now the issue is back? Hmm yeah it looks more like Blackburn were right about some part in the cluster... I'll find out exactly what they said it was. I think both senders in the tank send an electronic signal to the cluster and the electronics interprets both signals and displays the LED and the average fuel, etc.

I really don't want to have my cluster swapped out as the Odometer gets reset and can't be changed. Initially that seems like a free clock wind back, but when it comes time to sell the logs books wont match and it'll look really dodgy even though it's not.

Let me call Nissan and get all the details and then I'll demand a free set of 19" for compensation.

Farkers

AHAHAH free set of 19"s would be adequate compensation =)

I have a 10k service coming up, i guess I'll take it in to Nissan, and get them to re-fix the hatch springs, look at the senders and do the damn service at a rip-off price... =( The time saving of going to the one place outweighes servicing it else where at the moment. I never had the senders changed up til this point, i got the last light back via techron and 98 octane fuel... but it was only a bandaid fix to a component issue it seems.

If they say they have to reinstall the cluster i'm going to say no thanks...

Yutzi 04-08-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 485689)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH my car's final light is out again...

GTRFAN you were correct... =(

I hate nissan so much right now...

Not good to hear that the issue hasnt gone away. Ill be keeping a close eye on my fuel guage. I done about 3K since the replacing of the senders and still no problem.
Wont be happy :( if the issue comes back.

spearfish25 04-22-2010 07:56 PM

FWIW, my gauge has slowly started working fine again. It was perfect until I used a bottle of Techron. Then suddenly on the next fillup, I had the last two lights out (closest to 'full'). With about 4-5 more tanks, first the second to last light came back on, and now they all light up again after a refill. I'm suspicious that the Techron applies a coating to the sensor that F's things up until it dissolves/wears off.

gumpy 04-22-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yutzi (Post 487273)
Not good to hear that the issue hasnt gone away. Ill be keeping a close eye on my fuel guage. I done about 3K since the replacing of the senders and still no problem.
Wont be happy :( if the issue comes back.

If the issue comes back I'd support you in a plan to severely hurt Nissan Execs... such a basic thing and they **** it up... This is something Hyundai and Proton can do correctly you know? even Tata have fuel guages that work...

gumpy 04-22-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 508884)
FWIW, my gauge has slowly started working fine again. It was perfect until I used a bottle of Techron. Then suddenly on the next fillup, I had the last two lights out (closest to 'full'). With about 4-5 more tanks, first the second to last light came back on, and now they all light up again after a refill. I'm suspicious that the Techron applies a coating to the sensor that F's things up until it dissolves/wears off.

Get the Sobs at Nissan to fix it...

In saying that what made you try techron if it was working fine?

GTRFAN 04-22-2010 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 508906)
Get the Sobs at Nissan to fix it...

In saying that what made you try techron if it was working fine?

I think the Techron was disscussed in one of the american threads. I tried a bottle and it has actually improved things. I have also switch to BP Ultimate from Shell and I now get all lights on, but mostly just the last one out.

I'm going to let the whole issue go as it doesn't really bother me.

gumpy 04-22-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 509064)
I think the Techron was disscussed in one of the american threads. I tried a bottle and it has actually improved things. I have also switch to BP Ultimate from Shell and I now get all lights on, but mostly just the last one out.

I'm going to let the whole issue go as it doesn't really bother me.

Yeah Techron started in the main forum and i mentioned it here...

I might give it a go, it does bother me... damn ocd... my life would be so much easier without it

jekel 04-23-2010 01:49 AM

I only use bp now and all came on at last fill but usually last one doesn't light up.......very odd......:s , most expensive car i owned.......lancer never had a prob, bit dissapointed for so much $$ has issues......this and the boot getting stuck.

shumby 04-23-2010 01:57 AM

ya fuel sending unit had it replaced on my FX and my G. the G is acting upagain so it is going back to get replaced again.

Mr Ed 04-23-2010 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jekel (Post 509294)
I only use bp now and all came on at last fill but usually last one doesn't light up.......very odd......:s , most expensive car i owned.......lancer never had a prob, bit dissapointed for so much $$ has issues......this and the boot getting stuck.

Yeah I have the same problem. My last fuel indicator light doesnt light up. However, what I have noticed is that on the 2nd/3rd drive, the light comes back on!

WTF?

I am starting to just accept it and move on.

Additionally my replaced springs have stuffed up again....

WTF? x 2

Yutzi 04-23-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Ed (Post 509367)
Yeah I have the same problem. My last fuel indicator light doesnt light up. However, what I have noticed is that on the 2nd/3rd drive, the light comes back on!

WTF?

I am starting to just accept it and move on.

Additionally my replaced springs have stuffed up again....

WTF? x 2

Same thing is happening with mine now. I had the senders replaced, working fine for about 6 weeks now. Last light doesnt work now when it is full and then it will come on again after a few starts.

Really frustrating to say the least.

gumpy 04-24-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Yutzi (Post 510396)
Same thing is happening with mine now. I had the senders replaced, working fine for about 6 weeks now. Last light doesnt work now when it is full and then it will come on again after a few starts.

Really frustrating to say the least.

after getting the senders replaced it's not lighting up again?

wtf nissan... come on...

Mr Ed 05-09-2010 07:11 AM

I have done 120kms on the tank and have now lost 4 LEDs.

this is not right!!!!!

Majestik 05-09-2010 07:14 AM

I still reckon it's Shell Optimax that's causing the issues...

gumpy 05-09-2010 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Ed (Post 530320)
I have done 120kms on the tank and have now lost 4 LEDs.

this is not right!!!!!

where you gunning it? like severely?

my final light came back on the other night... dunno why... I'm a bit over all this actually... my gf's daulis is owning the zed in terms of quality... as is my friends ss commodore... all three cars purchased at the same time... Mine's the only car with niggling issues...

evse82 05-09-2010 07:28 AM

yeah, my last light is the only one which doesn't light up now... I'm not too fussed but it's just a little stupid issue.

Also my sensors down work properly anymore, I wonder if it has anything to do with my subs?

funny thing is, my boot opens fine from day 1....

Mr Ed 05-09-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gumpy (Post 530326)
where you gunning it? like severely?

my final light came back on the other night... dunno why... I'm a bit over all this actually... my gf's daulis is owning the zed in terms of quality... as is my friends ss commodore... all three cars purchased at the same time... Mine's the only car with niggling issues...

just drove car normally

I am running BP Ult 98.

Ravoz 05-10-2010 02:26 AM

yeah the tank is like 400km..its smaller then the 350z.

If i drive like an old man and change gears at 2.5RPMS then I crank it to like 500KMs...but there is just too much power to do that constantly..sometimes you just gotta open it up a little to hear it roar.

Lord Kain 05-10-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Majestik (Post 530323)
I still reckon it's Shell Optimax that's causing the issues...

I can't believe I'm about to do this :iagree:

Gee 05-16-2010 09:43 PM

I just had the 20K service from Nissan Ryde (NSW) and they charged $303. Also have problem witht he last led in fuel guage which they are ordering the senders to replace.

Also had problem with the drivers Z mat getting a whole worn right through where my clutch heel rests. I can't believe they wear out in 6 months!
Maybe I should stop wearing the stillettos when driving!

The shop said "thats just normal wear and tear" Are you kidding me? This is my first Nissan and I'll send the whole effing thing back to Mr. Nissan it little pieces if thats their idea of normal wear and tear.

After a bit of argy bargy they have decided to replace the mat. That and the fact that Nissan is apparently sending out a survey and maybe they don't want me going berko to head office !

sheeeesh

GTRFAN 05-17-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by evse82 (Post 530335)
yeah, my last light is the only one which doesn't light up now... I'm not too fussed but it's just a little stupid issue.

Mine too, so Im just going to live with it now.


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Originally Posted by Gee (Post 540209)
Also have problem witht he last led in fuel guage which they are ordering the senders to replace.

Also had problem with the drivers Z mat getting a whole worn right through where my clutch heel rests.

We know it's not the senders as others have had them replaced and the issue still exists. Blackburn Nissan sought advice from head office Japan and the diagnosis was the instrument cluster on the '09 models. They have a new cluster waiting to be installed for me now, but I'm not going to get it as it resets the odometer. It just gets dodgy when trying to sell when the numbers don't match the service book.

With the mats, I got a set replaced at the last service as the plastic clips had broken off...what a shame. ;)

BluZ 05-18-2010 01:50 AM

I've got the top led out on mine and I'll report it to Nissan when the 10K come around. It seems strange to me that mine was OK till I let it get really empty - like 70l fill so there was only about 2l in the tank. As soon as I filled it, the top led didn't come one and this was filling at the same Shell servo I have used since buying the 370.

It's also strange that replacing the senders fixes the problem, for a while at least. I would have thought that if it was a cluster, changing the sender shouldn't make any difference (or am I just being simplistic). Could it be that letting the tank get really low is what's messing up the sender. Those who have had the sender replaced and have had the problem recur, did you let the tank get really low?

I think I'll get the sender replaced then not let the tank get much below 1/4 and see what happens.

HOT.370 05-19-2010 03:10 AM

Yeah another 370Z with a dodggey fuel gauge issue. I was the first to pick up the Z when it was launched April last year. And it seems like one issue after another.

one: dodgy tiniting. Had to be redone twice

Two: Front bonnet didn't align. Nissan dealership tried to fix. Ended scratching the from 2 pillars. Cars had to spend a couple of days being resprayed at a panel shop.

Three: Boot hatch was getting stuck. Had to get that fixed as well.

Four: Battery manged to **** itself after only 2 months. Lucky it was replaced for free, due to Randwick dealership helping out.

Five: The floor mats fell apart after only 5 months of ownership. Got some ordered from the US. Half the price with twice as good quality.

Six: despite of all the issues I still love the car.


Seven: HOT.370 will be for sale soon as I'm going to upgrade to an R35 GTR.

PS. Glad to be part of the forum.

gumpy 05-19-2010 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HOT.370 (Post 543366)
Yeah another 370Z with a dodggey fuel gauge issue. I was the first to pick up the Z when it was launched April last year. And it seems like one issue after another.

one: dodgy tiniting. Had to be redone twice

Two: Front bonnet didn't align. Nissan dealership tried to fix. Ended scratching the from 2 pillars. Cars had to spend a couple of days being resprayed at a panel shop.

Three: Boot hatch was getting stuck. Had to get that fixed as well.

Four: Battery manged to **** itself after only 2 months. Lucky it was replaced for free, due to Randwick dealership helping out.

Five: The floor mats fell apart after only 5 months of ownership. Got some ordered from the US. Half the price with twice as good quality.

Six: despite of all the issues I still love the car.


Seven: HOT.370 will be for sale soon as I'm going to upgrade to an R35 GTR.

PS. Glad to be part of the forum.

how often do you change your cars? I'll line up for the GTR :tup:

gumpy 05-19-2010 03:59 AM

In other news my final light is now back on... The only thing i can attribute this to is as follows:

i go on business trips for 2 weeks with the tank not full, i come back and it's out... 3 or so refils later the final light comes on... each time after that the light is on... I then go on another business trip and the damn f'er is out... conclusion... it rusts or something when you leave it out of the fuel too long... but i don't know why the 2nd and 3rd top dots don't also die... so yeah not a full proof conclusion but that's what i've observed.

Gee 05-19-2010 10:45 AM

Yeah, the 2010 GTR is getting rave reviews. I do like the 370z an awful lot despite a few minor issues that really aren't worth a lot of angst over in the big picture - its a toss up for me whether to beef up the 370z with $30k+ of go fast goodies or stump up for Godzilla.
Hey life is tough...hehe

HOT.370 05-20-2010 01:27 AM

Yeah I agree totaly the 370z is a stunning looking car.

The issues truly are minor. I have installed a cold air intake and the Hi Tech CBE system. The performance gains where an extra 23.7 horsepower at the wheels.

The car for a naturaly aspirated 6, delivers the performance of an HSV.


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