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Majestik 12-07-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 311658)
I'm starting to think Nissan got the tyre specs wrong and the overall rolling diameter is whats causing the innacuracy.

The thing is, if the indicated speed is higher than the actual speed, then the rolling diameter (circumference) is slightly too small (and not rolling the car the distance the speedo thinks it's going).

To fix this we can either get taller side % profiles, but I'm not exactly going to do this as the side wall profile already looks too fat for an 18" rim compared to other cars.

Hopefully Nissan can adjust the speedo calibration at a service? I'll look into this when I get 19" and new tyres in the profile I want.

Just my 2c worth of daily rambling

Nissan won't do bannanas as I've already tried. They say they'll only correct if more than 10% difference.

Majestik 12-07-2009 09:24 PM

I also read somewhere that it's incorrect on purpose so we have to service our cars sooner.
I dunno how that would work though...

GTRFAN 12-07-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Majestik (Post 312190)
I also read somewhere that it's incorrect on purpose so we have to service our cars sooner.
I dunno how that would work though...

It's because the car travels less distance and speed than indicated.

Am I the only geek who studied physics? I am bored at work, so here goes my explaination.



Imagine the entire road surface of the wheel as distance measurement of approximately 2m. (circumference)

The ECU is constantly counting how many times the wheel rotates and how many times per second this occurs via the ABS wheel sensors (or gearbox on some cars)

The ECU then multiplies the distance by the number of times and gets the total distance travelled. It can also calculate speed based on the number of rotations per second/minute/hour

Here's the problem....the ECU has a distance measurement for the wheels that it uses for all calculations. This figure is the innacurate part and is a bit longer than actual wheel circumference.

Majestik 12-08-2009 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRFAN (Post 312237)
It's because the car travels less distance and speed than indicated.

Am I the only geek who studied physics? I am bored at work, so here goes my explaination.



Imagine the entire road surface of the wheel as distance measurement of approximately 2m. (circumference)

The ECU is constantly counting how many times the wheel rotates and how many times per second this occurs via the ABS wheel sensors (or gearbox on some cars)

The ECU then multiplies the distance by the number of times and gets the total distance travelled. It can also calculate speed based on the number of rotations per second/minute/hour

Here's the problem....the ECU has a distance measurement for the wheels that it uses for all calculations. This figure is the innacurate part and is a bit longer than actual wheel circumference.

Ahhh.. Now i feel stupid!

I thought it was magic!!

evse82 12-08-2009 06:41 AM

It's ok Ronnie, he got his facts wrong:

Lets say for instance you are cruising at 100kph, if you, at any given time, lift up the storage compartments in the back (behind both driver and passenger seats) and unscrew the panel, you'll find what is causing the speedo to go out...... leprechauns.. two of them.. they actually sit in there and screw up the signals being sent to the ecu. I find the best solution is to leave cheese outside the car, when it's dark they'll jump out to feed, thats when you hit them with a shovel. Sell em on ebay for some quick cash, good for a sway bar.

MYZ34 12-08-2009 06:43 AM

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Gee 12-08-2009 07:15 AM

The outside circumference of the tyres will progressively reduce as you wear down the tread pattern.

Thus, the more you drive the slower you go, ergo , one day you'll be doing "60kmph" down the road and wondering why grandpa in his motorised wheelchair is racing you off at the lights and beating you! ;-)

G

Gee 12-08-2009 07:27 AM

Anyone know how the odometer works? Off the gearbox or ECU or? If it suffers from the same source of inaccuracies then I would really be cheesed off. The speedo is one thing, but if you are up to 10% out on the odometer I think that could be serious.

Imagine all those crimes where the cops calulate how far it was to get to the murder scene and back in time, the odometer could be kilometres out and so you get off scott free!

G

j.arnaldo 12-08-2009 01:19 PM

I remember when the '03 350Z came out, it had all kindsa bugs; then the '04 had fewer; then the '04.5, my year model--Touring Coupe--had most of 'em corrected (my beaZt's very reliable!). Then, in the '06 model, there was the oil-consumption issue, but the years following were great. Now comes the 370, starting the process all over! What's wrong with Nissan's engineers?! Nissan was classified as a "hit'n'miss" car manufacturer by CR. I think they really know what they're talking about!

theDreamer 12-08-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 312978)
I remember when the '03 350Z came out, it had all kindsa bugs; then the '04 had fewer; then the '04.5, my year model--Touring Coupe--had most of 'em corrected (my beaZt's very reliable!). Then, in the '06 model, there was the oil-consumption issue, but the years following were great. Now comes the 370, starting the process all over! What's wrong with Nissan's engineers?! Nissan was classified as a "hit'n'miss" car manufacturer by CR. I think they really know what they're talking about!

WTF?
Nissan engineers are fine, you cannot account for over 10k US sold vehicles plus however many more worldwide and expect a perfect vehicle. This is not a hand built car, even some of those have minor issues. Also, you are on a website dedicated to the car, with maybe 1% of owners here who even remote issues, there are bound to be problems with any car. I can bet you anything that your perfect model year 2004.5 350z has issues with some customers.

Get off your high horse and start thinking, this forum is for the 370z, not the 2004.5 350z is great without issues.

vipor 12-08-2009 01:52 PM

2004.5 > all? i'm lost

2theextreme 12-08-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vipor (Post 313013)
2004.5 > all? i'm lost

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...eme/2010-1.jpg

kdo2milger 12-08-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 312978)
I remember when the '03 350Z came out, it had all kindsa bugs; then the '04 had fewer; then the '04.5, my year model--Touring Coupe--had most of 'em corrected (my beaZt's very reliable!). Then, in the '06 model, there was the oil-consumption issue, but the years following were great. Now comes the 370, starting the process all over! What's wrong with Nissan's engineers?! Nissan was classified as a "hit'n'miss" car manufacturer by CR. I think they really know what they're talking about!

:shakes head:

something about this post makes me want to shake babies!

vipor 12-08-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 313067)
:shakes head:

something about this post makes me want to shake babies!

if i [accidently] have one, you can shake it all you want :ugh2:

6MT 12-08-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mysxcz (Post 310592)
Hi Guys,


this is just a thread to see if any other 370z owners have had the same issues i ahave had with mine, and maybe a few others im not aware of ..

- Full gauge not working (last two dots dont light up)
- Boot wont open with out me pulling it whilst pressing the button
- side mirrors make some wierd clicking noise once the car turns on .. (only sometimes)

cheers

"Full" guage.... I think you mean FUEL guage. All my lights light up when I fill it right up.

Boot.... others have had this problem... me, nothing... never had any problems with the hatch (boot).

Side mirrors...? That's a weird one... never happened to me.

My 2 cents.


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