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Subwoofer & Amplifier Install...
I have a Kenwood DNX9140 which I am going to install and I'm planning to get a subwoofer and amp for this DVD/Nav player for my Nismo 370z. Which brands should be OK and how to configure them? I'm new to car audio system so any suggestions would be appreciated.
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In order to better understand what you are looking for, I am going to ask you a few questions. What kind of music do you listen to? What is your budget for everything total? How loud do you want it to be? As for adjusting them and all that is basically the same for any amp and sub. If you go to car audio 101 thread there is some helpful info there that will help you understand a lot about tuning and such.
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I usually listen to Rap and Hip Hop. I wouldnt mind the spending limit but reasonable price. And I'm not into top of the line models. Thanks.
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Get a JL10/12'' shallow mount W5 sub... get a phoenix gold 600watt amp
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I am going to disagree with the JL sub. Over priced and not the best for the kind of music he listens to. I am going to recommend a alpine type r 12 inch sub for your setup or a Rockford Fosgate Punch stage 3. For amps I do agree with your phoenix gold amp or you can go with a kicker amp to save money. When you order your sub make sure to get the DVC 4 ohms which means there is 2 voice coils that are 4 ohms. This way you can hook it up to most amps.
www.woofersetc.com or www.amazon.com are good places to get your sub and amp. Also do not forget your power wire and rca cables as well. I recommend kicker hyperflex 4 gauge for power wire and rcas stinger is pretty good. |
bigaudiofanat,
It sounds a bit stupid but can you point out the model #'s for the amp and sub (and maybe enclosure for my nismo 370z?) and accessories like wires/cables ? And where to buy them? Honestly, I know nothing about car audio but am trying to learn it since I've got my Nismo 370z... |
Sure thing I will make up a list and either post it or send it to you.
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For a mid to higher quality sub and amp here is the setup I would recommend.
Sub P3D412 - Rockford Fosgate Punch Stage 3 4-Ohm 12" Subwoofer Amp ZX750.1 - Kicker 1 Ch 750 Watt ZX Series Amplifier Power Wires the reason I choose kicker is because they have a very good quality wire and very easy to work with. Amazon.com: Kicker 05PK4 4-Gauge Single Amplifier Power Kit: Electronics RCA's Stinger makes some pretty good rcas and you need a quality set so that way you do not get much noise interference from other electronics in the car. Amazon.com: SHI2312 - Stinger 12 foot - 2 Channel HPM3 RCA Cables: Electronics Now if you want to get a little better quality here is your other choices. Amp X600.1 - Phoenix Gold Xenon 600 Watt Mono Amplifier OR PDX-1.600 - Alpine 1 Ch 600 Watt Digital Power Amplifier Sub KAPPA PERFECT12VQ - Infinity Kappa Perfect Series 12" VQ Series subwoofers IDQ12V3.D4 - Image Dynamics 12" IDQ Version 3 Dual 4 Ohm Subwoofer Now the reason I choose the subs I did was because not only your taste in music but how much power you are going to probably be running and also your budget. Any combination of sub and amp would sound good from this group. If you wanted me to choose I would choose the PG amp and the ID Q sub, I think that would sound pretty darn good. Also JL DOSE make some nice subs and yes they sound good but there are better ones out there for the money and will also sound better. |
For a box that will fit I would look at z enclosures for there boxes will fit perfectly.
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Alpine offers a big bang for the buck. The Type-R subs are really decent and thier amps are pretty solid. If price isnt too much of an issue I would go with the PDX line but the others will definitly do the job for a lot less.
The component speakers arent bad either. I had a set of the Type-R's before and they sounded pretty good for the money. |
About pricing, call up your audio shops who are authorized dealers and ask them about their pricing, and if they can match the prices you are finding on the internet, in most cases, they will and even do better.
I got my JL Stealthbox for my SUV for much cheaper than I could online, not only that, but they installed it for free. Most important thing is that I bought it from, and had it installed from an authorized dealer, which means I still get to keep the warranty that comes with it. Got my PDX 1.600 sub amp from them too, also at a fantastic price. Cliff notes: Try not to buy online to save your warranty and to potentially get a better price. Note: Watch out for shady audio shops who can get you a better price, but charge you for installation. Stay away from those. |
I always buy online. Most shops do not carry the higher quality names that you can find online. Nor are they willing to get the product or honor the warranty it comes with. Yes some shops carry JL but there is so much better out there than JL. Like audison, Rainbow, Focal just to name a few.
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I don't know what kind of audio shops you have in your area, but I never ran into such a problem. You just have to do some work and call around. If they are an authorized dealer in the first place, I don't see why they can't special order an item they don't carry, while still giving you a great price that includes installation, which is exactly what my audio shop did.
When they didn't have my JL Stealthbox(of course they wouldn't, it's vehicle specific), they ordered it for me. I'm not saying he goes with JL, I only went with it because they are one of the very few companies that make vehicle-specific sub boxes that take up very little space and are designed to be incognito. Tip: Go straight to the manufacturers website, and use "Find a Dealer". |
I agree with bigaudiofanat. Most of the shops try to rip you off especially when you buy high end products and when you bring your sport car in... Not only that, I'd prefer installing it myself so I can get familiar with my car and learning car audio systems is the most important thing to me. Speaking of this, I'm sure there will be tons of questions from me when installation comes like how to bypass Kenwood DNX9140, how to wire subwoofer/amp, etc? I'm going to receive stuff next week so I'm kinda excited now.
Bigaudiofanat, so IDQ12V3.D4 - Image Dynamics 12" IDQ Version 3 Dual 4 Ohm Subwoofer and PDX-1.600 - Alpine 1 Ch 600 Watt Digital Power Amplifier are a good match? Thanks again. |
It's another thing if you want to do everything yourself. I still don't see how they will try to rip you off if you call them and ask them for price of a specific sub or amp you are looking at. What you're basically telling me is that once they see you roll up in your 370Z, they will "forget" about the quote they gave you over the phone. IMHO, doesn't make any sense. But since you are going to do the install yourself, you don't have to worry about such things.
GL with the installation! Let us know how it goes and post pics :tup: |
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There are plenty of reputable shops out there. Most of the highend brands are very particular about the people they let sell their product. It seems that buying online to save money is a great idea but most people don't realize the effect it has on the Industry they love.
Say I own a shop and you decide to buy it online instead of paying the 100 extra it costs at retail. The sale that is taken from a local business leads to them shutting their doors and leads too less product sold for that particular manufacturer. This is called the race to zero. Its the reason why alot of the brands that used to be quality are now junk. Decreased volume leads to outsourcing to save money. Fosgate and kicker are just a couple examples of product no longer made in the US. Most people dont realize the effect of buying unauthorized equipment online. Find a reputable shop tha carries the high end brands you want and most will meet you half way on pricing. |
I have to disagree, I think people buy online is to take out the middle man. Also to make sure that they are getting what they wanted and the way I look at it is more of a trustworthy way to buy online. Also yes some companies are picky on who they let sell there product. But on the same note not all shops even sell the normal brands. I know of 2 particulars shops that use to sell alpine, jl, kicker, and focal. Now they only sell kenwood, polk, clarion, and bull dog for security. Do not ask me why that happened to them as I do not know. All I know is when I want to buy something I want to buy it not hear aw well we can get it but you will have to wait or well we don't carry it but for a few extra bucks we can get it for you. When I want it I want it. I think that is most people as well.
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This is why you call up shops and you shop around. Use yelp or some other review website to find out if the shop you are calling is good or not. Hit up your local forums, there's countless other ways to figure this stuff out. Quote:
IMO: If you are going to do something, do it right. Just like how I wouldn't leave the store without an extended warranty(which has already paid for itself many times over, even though I buy great quality brands). But in this case, instead of getting an extended warranty, you completely cut out the warranty because you want to save a few bucks. |
Buying online is not always cheaper ( new items).
Some audio shops here purchase their equipment from the manufacturers just like online stores such as Crutchfield. Also, while its true that majority of the time the online stores carries way more than the old brick n mortar, the latter might provide a cheaper discount (on the two or three brands they do push)than the former because they have a contract to push those specific items. An example..my JL stuff ( i know i know, its overprice overrated ;) )that I purchase from the brick n mortar was much cheaper than Crutchfield...that's with tax. The manager told me they have a contract with JL to push ALL their items and have them readily available..and in return, provides them with discounted already whole sale prices (this store is also on JL's signature retailer list) Just my business commentary :D |
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I was able to pick up most of my stereo components here in Hawaii for about the same price as the stuff on ebay. I wasn't able to get everything from one store but I looked at the items I wanted, asked what they were asking for an item and just made a cash offer of what it would cost me to order from ebay. In every case the stores said yes. My Alpine head unit, the Alpine components, my rear speakers, yup rear speakers (: both amps and my JL subs.
Okay sorry. I didn't mean to get this thread off topic. |
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2. I hate going to shops never will go to them. If they do not want to get what you want than you are going to hear a speech saying how you should buy this one and not that one. 3. As I said before and it applies for everything in CA and cars as well. Everyone has an opinions about the right way to buy things or do things. Dose not mean they are ALL right but most of them will get you the same or close to the same results. |
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2.Not true at all, dunno what shops you go to but authorized retailers use local distributors and can have almost anything in a day or two 3.Sure there are different ways to achieve similar results but failing to recognize the effects of Internet sales on those industries has lasting negative effects |
One of the biggest problems with buying on line is the potential for “grey markets” products. They recycle the same refurbished defective units over and over again to innocent unsuspecting people.
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Not true on crutchfield or woofersetc. If they do sell refurbished stuff they let you know they are.
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You are not very educated about woofersetc practices to obtain product. All of the higer end brands are obtained through unauthorized sources and have the serial numbers removed.( jl focal, zapco, morel, audison, boston acoustics, JBL, memphis and plenty more) None of those products are authorized, the companies wont honor any implied warranty either.
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The refurbished stuff they might not but I just emailed them they confirmed that most of there products the manufacture will honor the warranties. Kicker, alpine, sony, clarion, kenwood, polk, and others they will. I sent them a reply asking about audison and such I have not received a reply email yet. But most people just buy on ebay anyway so weather you buy from ebay amazon or woofersetc most will not have warranties.
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Its the same way they bought all the rainbow equipment, a distributor went out of business and they bought there stock. Now Theyre claiming to be authorized. Not by rainbow.
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I never accused “Crutchfield” of sell selling used/refurbished defective units as new. What I’m saying is there are sites on line that do and YOU would never know the difference. |
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WoofersEtc.com to me show details 2:06 PM (5 hours ago) Hello, Our Los Angeles retail store is an authorized dealer of all the brands we carry, thus all our products come with a one year warranty, and additional one and two year warranties can be purchased as well, prices varying on the items in question. Also, all our products are brand new unless specifically listed as refurbished or open box. Thank you for your inquiry, -Julian WoofersEtc.com reimermatt@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Reimer reimermatt@gmail.com Company: Phone: Hello I am just curious if any warranties weather it be from the factory or from you come with the products. Weather it be rainbow or kicker please let me know what warranties come with the products when being bough. Thank You |
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I agree...........+2
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