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kenchan 03-03-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2717579)
I would prefer to see auto makers do more of a general connection, supports iOS, Android, WP, etc.

yep, same thought as my post#4.

bdavis89 03-03-2014 03:37 PM

I'm guessing this will be terrible for anyone who doesn't have an iPhone? Apple isn't exactly known for making its products play nice with competitors...

kenchan 03-03-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89 (Post 2717644)
I'm guessing this will be terrible for anyone who doesn't have an iPhone? Apple isn't exactly known for making its products play nice with competitors...

yah, i think it would be like a factory option to get this HU. the standard model will probably have a regular HU maybe?

have to remember, steve jobs's goal was to beat out sony. and he did. sony also loves its own proprietary formats and plugs. :ugh: memory stick? :ugh: beta? :ugh2: MD? :wtf2: they are somewat alike in some ways.

MacCool 03-03-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2717592)
That is probably on the car side of choices.
Honestly this just sounds like Apple has put forth a setup that if your phone gets plugged into one of these cars the car will load up an Apple specific UI and allow apps to run.

Yeh, it doesn't appear to be an all-or-none thing. If you have an iPhone 5 or greater and the right app, you can run CarPlay, but you don't have to. Otherwise, it's just Nissan's Nav package as usual. No reason car mfgrs can't allow other apps, like Android apps, to run too. Hardware might be a problem. Does the Nav package allow Android devices?

Nissan (and others) already have a iPod/iPhone interface. If I plug my iPhone into my 2014 Z or my wife's 2012 Murano, the iPod/iPhone music controls come up on the touch screen. That's old technology.

As to wireless access...apparently that's in the cards. Volvo has already announced it as imminent. Wireless charging? Not ready for prime time in the industry. My original question was whether or not this is likely to be usable on current Nissans with touch screen and iOS interface (in other words, with Nav package)

MacCool 03-03-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2717659)
yah, i think it would be like a factory option to get this HU. the standard model will probably have a regular HU maybe?

have to remember, steve jobs's goal was to beat out sony. and he did. sony also loves its own proprietary formats and plugs. :ugh: memory stick? :ugh: beta? :ugh2: MD? :wtf2: they are somewat alike in some ways.

I thinks it's the car companies' standard touch screen head unit, just with the ability to interface with iOS. You don't have to, just an added benefit for those who want to, only for the price of an app. (of course, you have to have bought the Nav package).

MacCool 03-03-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bdavis89 (Post 2717644)
I'm guessing this will be terrible for anyone who doesn't have an iPhone? Apple isn't exactly known for making its products play nice with competitors...

Yeah, it only works with an iPhone. If you have Android, you're stuck with the car company's native software in their Nav package. Just like you are now.

Eagle 03-03-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2717533)
.. like wat if someone had blackberry factory installed device in their car? LOL :icon17:

yah, that wouldn't be very cool any more. it's hard because cars take 3-5yrs to design and get built. phone makers can die within that time frame.

This is why this type of technology should not be proprietary and should be built around a standard interface that Google, IOS, BlackBerry, Microsoft...etc would all need to develop their software (downloadable app) to conform to.

It shouldn't be Apple or Microsoft dictating how it's done. Of course that means someone has to have the technological and monetary swagger to make them all fall behind the idea. But if I were building this, that's what I'd do. Create an open standards interface for all devices to connect to...probably have them use BlueTooth like some of you are suggesting or even a private Wi-Fi LAN for connectivity instead of Lightning or some other proprietary hardware interface.

madmike23 03-03-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2717749)
Yeh, it doesn't appear to be an all-or-none thing. If you have an iPhone 5 or greater and the right app, you can run CarPlay, but you don't have to. Otherwise, it's just Nissan's Nav package as usual. No reason car mfgrs can't allow other apps, like Android apps, to run too. Hardware might be a problem. Does the Nav package allow Android devices?

Yes. I have a Note 3 linked to mine. Streams perfectly, navigation even has all my starred locations from my google maps. The nav interface can be controlled by physical buttons/dial, touchscreen, or from the steering wheel as well. Even voice commands from steering wheel. iPod hookup is in the arm rest.

While driving, its nice to have physical buttons such as the big dial on the nav, answering calls, scrolling through menus, etc. Touch screen can be tricky and dangerous while driving.

MacCool 03-03-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 2717760)
This is why this type of technology should not be proprietary and should be built around a standard interface that Google, IOS, BlackBerry, Microsoft...etc would all need to develop their software (downloadable app) to conform to.

It shouldn't be Apple or Microsoft dictating how it's done. Of course that means someone has to have the technological and monetary swagger to make them all fall behind the idea. But if I were building this, that's what I'd do. Create an open standards interface for all devices to connect to...probably have them use BlueTooth like some of you are suggesting or even a private Wi-Fi LAN for connectivity instead of Lightning or some other proprietary hardware interface.

Apple had an idea, sold it to the car companies. Android/Google/Microsoft/Blackberry could do the same. Buy the Apple app and hook up to the car. Don't have an iPhone? Buy the Android/Google/Microsoft/Blackberry app and hook up to the car. If such an app exists. If not, blame Android/Google/Microsoft/Blackberry, not Apple or Nissan.

Don't have a smart phone? Your phone mfgr hasn't been smart enough to arrange the app compatibility? Then use the standard Nav package interface. You don't lose anything by not having it, you just gain a little something extra if you do.

I really have no clue if Androids can plug into Nissan's Nav package USB port for on screen control like iOS devices can, but that iPod/ipad/iPhone interface has been an option on most or all of the car mfgrs for years.

If some Android phone mfgr came to the same companies and pitched the same kind of connectivity for Android, I'm certain that they'd all listen.

XPNSD IT 03-03-2014 05:54 PM

Not to sure I want to follow directions from Apple maps. LOL But does seem neat, similar to Pioneer Appradio which is nice.

madmike23 03-03-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2717791)
I really have no clue if Androids can plug into Nissan's Nav package USB port for on screen control like iOS devices can, but that iPod/ipad/iPhone interface has been an option on most or all of the car mfgrs for years.

If some Android phone mfgr came to the same companies and pitched the same kind of connectivity for Android, I'm certain that they'd all listen.

There are quite a few Android stereos out there. This is just iOS step into a dash unit.

I have the Nissan's Navigation package and its pretty awesome, Android/iOS devices are great via bluetooth. As for the iPod hook up, its pretty much trash for me because scrolling through a 160gb iPod can be painful. I rather use Google music, its smart enough to know what i wanna hear.

MacCool 03-03-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by madmike23 (Post 2717763)
While driving, its nice to have physical buttons such as the big dial on the nav, answering calls, scrolling through menus, etc. Touch screen can be tricky and dangerous while driving.

Hence the expanded Siri interface that's part of CarPlay. All those functions, and more, are available via Siri's voice interface.

madmike23 03-04-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2717812)
Hence the expanded Siri interface that's part of CarPlay. All those functions, and more, are available via Siri's voice interface.

It wont be enough to make we wanna dive into that mess. Never a Siri fan, dont wanna get lost either. I'm fine with Nissan's Nav, it's available now, does it all already and has physical buttons (easy and quick). Voice control is a pain and very slow.

Also has backup cam, can play DVD's & video files and best of all, never have to deal with iTunes, the worst program in the world...

theDreamer 03-05-2014 10:21 AM

Ferrari FF with the Apple integration video (7 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp5BD08Lk-w

MacCool 03-05-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by madmike23 (Post 2719088)
It wont be enough to make we wanna dive into that mess. Never a Siri fan, dont wanna get lost either. I'm fine with Nissan's Nav, it's available now, does it all already and has physical buttons (easy and quick). Voice control is a pain and very slow.

Also has backup cam, can play DVD's & video files and best of all, never have to deal with iTunes, the worst program in the world...

Unfortunately, Nissans Nav isn't a great system outside of major metro areas, especially compared to some of the $2 navigation apps available for the iPhone. Siri, for all her foibles, simply blows Nissans voice interface away, not to mention all the other features that let do things like access voice messages, radio controls, etc. As to backup cameras, CarPlay has no effect on that. That function works as it always does. Likewise DVDs and other video. Those features not affected.


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