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Jsmith7861 11-27-2013 09:09 PM

Question from a new Z owner.
 
I did a search, but couldnt really find anything on this. I own a base 2014 (sport pack, cant see why that would matter for this). In non-bose Z's, im correct in saying there are no back speakers, right? And if that is correct, is it pre wired to the back? Sorry if these are obvious questions, I havent found much on this, and I put the fade all the way in the rear with no results, so assumed the only speakers were the 4 in front, door and dash.

RonRizz 11-28-2013 05:02 AM

you are correct.

Jsmith7861 11-30-2013 04:09 AM

Do you happen to know if the wires are just chillin back there in the appropriate spots? Or are they somewhere odd?

RonRizz 11-30-2013 04:28 AM

Cant say for sure, I havent dug in that deep. Matt (bigaudiofan) would know the answer to that one.

Gadgetech 11-30-2013 05:44 AM

From what I've read there is NO wiring to the rear. I haven't visually confirmed that though.


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Datsun240Z71 11-30-2013 05:50 AM

Mine is set up as you describe. No back speakers.

Zteve 12-01-2013 07:49 AM

mine is a 2013, no speakers or wire

LSP1995 12-01-2013 08:30 AM

My installer removed the back panels and found no speaker wires. Because I had 4 JL component speakers from my trade-in, he replaced the factory set in the doors and used the tweeters in the second set to replace those on the dash. I also installed a downward fire 10 inch sub behind the stabilizer in the hatch, and the setup really sounds good.

Jsmith7861 12-02-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadgetech (Post 2588728)
From what I've read there is NO wiring to the rear. I haven't visually confirmed that though.


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Well thats rather depressing. Looks like I have my work cut out for me then.

Thanks for the information, everyone.

Jsmith7861 12-03-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by voided (Post 2592946)
Before you get too worried about having a big project, consider that most experienced audiophiles on these forums do NOT recommend bothering with the rear speakers. They are poorly placed, small in size, and generally don't offer much return for the amount of work required to install.

I upgraded my system with only the front 4 and I'm very happy with the results.


What did you upgrade to, if I can ask?

RonRizz 12-03-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voided (Post 2592946)
Before you get too worried about having a big project, consider that most experienced audiophiles on these forums do NOT recommend bothering with the rear speakers.

Agreed.. Totally unnecessary. I've heard all the arguments over the years about rear fill, and the music "surrounding" you, ect, ect.
It really is a personal preference, but I am totally against it. 5 minutes in my car, and you'll never run rear speakers again.:tiphat:

H2O_Doc 12-03-2013 05:32 PM

Ok, I'll chime in. It is correct that most audiophiles don't recommend rear speakers for applications such as ours, but I did rear speakers in both 370s I have owned and am extremely happy for it. Having said that, I'm a bit of an unrefined pig; no Grey Poupon served in my car. Not an audiophile, I just love music.

winnre 12-03-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2593104)
Ok, I'll chime in. It is correct that most audiophiles don't recommend rear speakers for applications such as ours, but I did rear speakers in both 370s I have owned and am extremely happy for it. Having said that, I'm a bit of an unrefined pig; no Grey Poupon served in my car. Not an audiophile, I just love music.

I find the limit for me is the way the music was originally recorded. XM does not always sound as good as a CD, and anything bluetooth from a phone usually sucks bad.

RonRizz 12-03-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2593104)
Ok I'm a bit of an unrefined pig

Maybe going too far south on the spectrum there! Lol. Like I said, it IS a personal preference.
My main argument for those who Must have rear speakers is this.....To hear the music the way it was intended / to hear the music the way it was recorded / to hear the music as if you were sitting in a concert hall, or your favorite artist at a concert..... No rear fill. When was the last time you were at a concert with speakers in Front of AND Behind you?
That being said, many of my customers past and present request rear speakers, and I gladly install them. Whatever makes them happy.

H2O_Doc 12-03-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2593134)
Maybe going too far south on the spectrum there! Lol. Like I said, it IS a personal preference.
My main argument for those who Must have rear speakers is this.....To hear the music the way it was intended / to hear the music the way it was recorded / to hear the music as if you were sitting in a concert hall, or your favorite artist at a concert..... No rear fill. When was the last time you were at a concert with speakers in Front of AND Behind you?
That being said, many of my customers past and present request rear speakers, and I gladly install them. Whatever makes them happy.

I agree about the importance of preference; you're right that staging is a choice based on what we like.

Regarding concerts, do you suppose that front staged music is a matter of "intent" or practicality? I genuinely don't know, but it seems like it is the most practical way to serve up music and perhaps it isn't too much about what the artist's intent was. I wonder if the distances between front and rear speakers in a concert setting would be so great that the timing between front and back would noticeably off unless you were in the center?

I love live music, but that is a matter of an entire experience (audio, visual, cultural, social, etc.). Live music (focusing solely on sound quality) is almost always grossly inferior to even a modest sound system (a few symphony halls being a notable exception). If my stereo sounded as bad as most concerts, I light it on fire and put it out by peeing on it (I considered doing the same with the stock system that came with the Z, but that might actually make it sound better).


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