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FricFrac 07-25-2009 12:09 PM

Is Satelite Radio Dead?
 
Just curious what you guys think about Satelite radio and the threat of wireless internet on phones, etc. I just set up my HTC Touch Pro to stream audio off the net as well as the gazillion internet stations. Since you can set up Shoutcast at home, etc as well you could be streaming your own audio from home onto your car radio system too. I'm assuming you can stream audio with the iPhones as well.

The only place I could see wanting to have Satelite radio is if you are in a remote location where its difficult to get cellular coverage. I know my internet connection is better than the Satelite - every time I go under some trees, buildings, bridges, etc it cuts out but not the internet....

frost 07-25-2009 12:12 PM

It's probably dead for a couple reasons. I didn't renew because I started hearing commercials. I mean, what's the point if you're going to have commercials?

cow 07-25-2009 12:34 PM

I stream ESPN radio & Air America over my phone at work every day. I want satellite radio, but at this point, there doesn't seem to be a reason to pay.

dad 07-25-2009 12:35 PM

I had Sirius for a year. The advertisements lead me to believe, The Stones and The Who were played 24/7/364. No way, they played them two weeks at the most. I felt deceived and ripped off!
It's not wroth the money, I had it turned off 98% of the time I had a subscription! "I found better music and news on the car radio"!

dad 07-25-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cow (Post 125088)
I stream ESPN radio & Air America over my phone at work every day. I want satellite radio, but at this point, there doesn't seem to be a reason to pay.

Air America?

cow 07-25-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 125093)
Air America?

Air America Media

I do NPR too, lol.

FuszNissan 07-25-2009 01:36 PM

Pandora on my Iphone!!!!!

frost 07-25-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 125179)
Pandora on my Iphone!!!!!

^ seems to be a popular choice with people I know

bigaudiofanat 07-25-2009 01:44 PM

Satellite radio is by no means dead, HD radio will never have the amount of channels nor the quality of sat radio. I had it in my last vehicle I have it at home and I will have it in my vehicle now, I love it there is nothing like driving anywhere you want and not have to worry about static, looking for stations and all that jazz. I love my Sirius and I will always have it.

bluzman 07-25-2009 02:04 PM

:iagree:

frost 07-25-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 125202)
Satellite radio is by no means dead, HD radio will never have the amount of channels nor the quality of sat radio. I had it in my last vehicle I have it at home and I will have it in my vehicle now, I love it there is nothing like driving anywhere you want and not have to worry about static, looking for stations and all that jazz. I love my Sirius and I will always have it.

I dont really consider HD radio to be "alive"

cow 07-25-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 125179)
Pandora on my Iphone!!!!!

I wish it could run in the background.

bigaudiofanat 07-25-2009 02:34 PM

Ya pandora is rely nice but still I am not going to buy a cell phone and by internet subscription just to listen to pandora, I will stick to my Sat Radio

FricFrac 07-25-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 125202)
Satellite radio is by no means dead, HD radio will never have the amount of channels nor the quality of sat radio. I had it in my last vehicle I have it at home and I will have it in my vehicle now, I love it there is nothing like driving anywhere you want and not have to worry about static, looking for stations and all that jazz. I love my Sirius and I will always have it.

uh we weren't talking about HD radio - we were talking about streaming off the net. If channel comparison is your argument you better switch over now with tens of thousands of internet radio stations broadcasting.... oh and the BW is lower on Satelite radio too...

bigaudiofanat 07-25-2009 03:35 PM

I am not arguing with HD radio SAT radio is what I am comparing and your internet radio is like 94-128kbps some are better but sat radio is like 256 I believe I am not arguing just think it is to much of a hassle just to get internet radio in your car.

kdoske 07-25-2009 04:35 PM

yes sat radio is dying fast. With Pandora and things like it coming out it just doesn't make any sense.

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 125329)
Ya pandora is rely nice but still I am not going to buy a cell phone and by internet subscription just to listen to pandora, I will stick to my Sat Radio

Well when you do finally decide to join the rest of us you will too agree that satellite radio is a waste of money.

CBRich 07-25-2009 04:42 PM

Pandora on iPhone here too. Once you try it you won't want anything else.

Mike 07-25-2009 04:52 PM

I love my satellite radios. However, once my verizon contract expires and I get an iphone, I plan on only streaming sirius through the iphone, and not putting a real receiver in the 370.

FricFrac 07-25-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 125399)
I am not arguing with HD radio SAT radio is what I am comparing and your internet radio is like 94-128kbps some are better but sat radio is like 256 I believe I am not arguing just think it is to much of a hassle just to get internet radio in your car.

Satelite radio is 128kbit - my phone regularly gets 720kbit and will stream whatever. It also buffers - satelite doesn't or at least it doesn't appear to since it breaks up frequently. Hassel is zero since I have my phone with me all the time. It won't be long before voice is data (eg no more voice and/or data plans - they'll be one). I don't think there are many analog phones if any any more.

I usually have a burnt MP3 CD in the changer or plug my MP3 player in but with the added option of plugging my phone in as well with streaming audio its hard to justify Satelite radio.

SvR370z 07-25-2009 09:55 PM

Sat Radio aka SiriusXm as a business is no where near dead. The company itself is closer to being a profitable company than its ever been. There are subs dropping no question.
The reasons vary from tough economy to just cheap/free solutions such as pandora.
I really like the technology, In a few years when the company is really making money it would be nice for them to lower the prices though.

bigaudiofanat 07-25-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 125448)
Satelite radio is 128kbit - my phone regularly gets 720kbit and will stream whatever. It also buffers - satelite doesn't or at least it doesn't appear to since it breaks up frequently. Hassel is zero since I have my phone with me all the time. It won't be long before voice is data (eg no more voice and/or data plans - they'll be one). I don't think there are many analog phones if any any more.

I usually have a burnt MP3 CD in the changer or plug my MP3 player in but with the added option of plugging my phone in as well with streaming audio its hard to justify Satelite radio.

You also have to take into affect that that tiny amp inside the iphone or any other phone is not that great quality. Even if I had an iphone I still would choose my sat radio, it is just my opinion and my choice.

FricFrac 07-25-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 125769)
You also have to take into affect that that tiny amp inside the iphone or any other phone is not that great quality. Even if I had an iphone I still would choose my sat radio, it is just my opinion and my choice.

I agree with the iPhone - the audio quality is marginal at best but products like the Cowon MP3 players, etc have outstanding DSP for audio. I have an S9 and there really isn't anything that compares to it. In particular the ability to calculate where harmonics are lost and rebuild them.... once you are in the digital domain you can do some pretty cool stuff.

...and to each his or her own. I'm not ragging on you because you like XM I'm just saying there are some real threats to it and a lot of yet untapped alternatives. I extended mine for three months because I got it cheap but like others were saying its not quite what they advertised and personally I keep flipping back and forth to the local radio stations...

fly yellow 07-26-2009 09:13 PM

I have had XM since it first came out. I really do love it and never listen to FM or Am anymore, unless I want local sports games or talk. I don't know what Pandora is because I don't have an i-phone and never will until they expand it past AT&T. Internet radio is the future, but it has a ways to go. The car is still the predominant venue for listening to the radio. Once the technology is available to integrate internet radio into a car stereo then you will see the end of XM/Sirius, and most likely AM and FM stations will switch to the web so they can avoid all of the FCC costs.

frost 07-26-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fly yellow (Post 127059)
I have had XM since it first came out. I really do love it and never listen to FM or Am anymore, unless I want local sports games or talk. I don't know what Pandora is because I don't have an i-phone and never will until they expand it past AT&T. Internet radio is the future, but it has a ways to go. The car is still the predominant venue for listening to the radio. Once the technology is available to integrate internet radio into a car stereo then you will see the end of XM/Sirius, and most likely AM and FM stations will switch to the web so they can avoid all of the FCC costs.

You dont have to have an iphone to listen to pandora. It's just internet music, so they are using their internet on their phone to stream pandora.

fly yellow 07-26-2009 09:31 PM

^^ thanks, that's cool. I have a blackberry storm, so I could probably do the same thing, except the browser on the crackberry is disasterous. I would love to get an i-phone, but AT&T is just terrible as far as reception goes.

FuszNissan 07-26-2009 09:57 PM

Pandora FTW!!!


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