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scope22 04-19-2013 06:06 PM

bluetooth
 
can you play music over your phone's bluetooth? phone calls work great but i can't get it to play music...maybe the app sux?

bigaudiofanat 04-20-2013 07:36 AM

You can however not with the factory system, and you loose a lot of audio quality doing this as well. Add to that draining your phones battery pretty quickly and I would go with an aux input.

kidkotic2001 04-20-2013 09:34 AM

I have the Bose system with an android phone. I use my Bluetooth for radio sometimes. You might have to set up your car to also play music I had to do that. I would give detail instructions once i get to a Pc.mi can't do this on my phone.

Edit: Your phone must support A2DP once you pair your phone to your Bose system push your function button until you get to Bluetooth then go to you phone Bluetooth options and make it will prompt you to pair the A2DP. I believe that is how I set it up

RonRizz 04-20-2013 01:59 PM

And plugging your charger into the 12v outlet eliminates battery drain.

DEpointfive0 04-20-2013 02:07 PM

I assume OP has a 2009, meaning you cannot stream music through Bluetooth

RonRizz 04-20-2013 02:39 PM

Ahhhhh!!! very wise.

cossie1600 04-20-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2276359)
And plugging your charger into the 12v outlet eliminates battery drain.

Problem is that on some phones you drain more than what you can charge in the car.

bigaudiofanat 04-20-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2276359)
And plugging your charger into the 12v outlet eliminates battery drain.

True but it's actually not good to charge your phone in the car, let alone keep it plugged in while playing music.

scope22 04-20-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2276366)
I assume OP has a 2009, meaning you cannot stream music through Bluetooth


yes, i have 09 with bose and nav...bluetooth all that...are you saying that it will only work for phone calls? can't stream music...pod casts ect? the phone i have is galaxy s3

Nailzs 04-20-2013 04:02 PM

Try this and see if it works.

http://www.the370z.com/2144241-post5.html

RonRizz 04-20-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2276416)
Problem is that on some phones you drain more than what you can charge in the car.

I did not know that, Or that it was bad to keep it plugged in while playing music, as matt pointed out.
Learn something new every day!

blackcherry20 04-20-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2276445)
True but it's actually not good to charge your phone in the car, let alone keep it plugged in while playing music.

Why is it not good to charge your phone in the ar?

bigaudiofanat 04-20-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 2276706)
Why is it not good to charge your phone in the ar?

Because the chargers are usually higher amps than a normal house charger, which tears the battery up after a while.
Even if it is the correct charging amps its still not good to have charging on and off as you stop and go places.

Cbtech 04-21-2013 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2276445)
True but it's actually not good to charge your phone in the car, let alone keep it plugged in while playing music.

I have to disagree. That would have been the case 3-4 years ago but most cell phones "remember" their previous charging state. With current technology both the battery and phones operating system regulate the the charging and it doesnt matter how many times you plug and unplug it.

You want to save your battery and wear-and-tear on your phone? shut it off at night. most people dont realize that having their phone on 24/7/365 wears it out.

and to answer the OP's question:
Keep it simple Go with this This

bigaudiofanat 04-21-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2277102)
I have to disagree. That would have been the case 3-4 years ago but most cell phones "remember" their previous charging state. With current technology both the battery and phones operating system regulate the the charging and it doesnt matter how many times you plug and unplug it.

You want to save your battery and wear-and-tear on your phone? shut it off at night. most people dont realize that having their phone on 24/7/365 wears it out.

and to answer the OP's question:
Keep it simple Go with this This

It actually still is the car with lithium technology today with phones. A lot of people do not realize this. With phone batteries being sensitive to temperatures and higher amp input to them, it can wear out a battery more quickly than a normal OEM charger. Same thing with (electric cars) they do not recommend rapid charging them to many times. Also if you shut down your phone you can actually get a fuller charge than having it on.

Fountainhead 04-21-2013 03:08 PM

Guys,

Cell phone batteries are mated specifically to the phone, therefore the phone has a unique regulator/temp sensor/voltage monitor that controls every aspect of the phone's battery. You can't "overcharge" or "overcurrent" the phone battery.

Each battery has a discharge curve, that curve is managed by the battery IC in the phone, there is a maximum that cannot be exceeded.

Each phone also has a charge curve, that curve is also managed by the battery IC in the phone, there also is a maximum that cannot be exceeded. This battery IC also monitors ambient temps and the temp of the battery and will decrease charge current based on battery temperature vs. ambient, a certain rise above ambient will trigger a change in the charge voltage/current curve.

Look at the current rating of the phone charger that is the maximum current the phone will use to charge the battery at the acceptable nominal rate AND run the phone and screen etc., so the user can charge and use simultaneously. The 5V USB voltage is used by the battery manager as follows:

Inside the phone the battery manager system monitors the battery voltage, there are these circuits called a buck and boost, they take the 3.7 volts and by means of a switching supply very efficiently increase/decrease the battery voltage to what ever level the circuitry of the phone requires. Usually the core of the SOC requires about 1.8 volts, other ancillary circuitry requires 3.3, and other parts - the radio transmitter etc., may require more than 5 volts.
What you also cannot do is drain the battery down too far (all phone batteries are 3.7 Volts, and when the voltage of the battery is down to say, 3.1 or 3.2 volts the phone will turn off and the battery is "drained" to the customer but actually the battery is far from dead.

Each Lion/LiPolymer battery has a certain number of full complete charge cycles in is lifetime, when those are exceeded you will notice that the battery may charge but won't last as long, this is because the depth of charge decreases as the charge cycles erode the chemicals in the battery, the chemicals only last so long so after a while the chemical reaction stops at a level below what the phone battery monitor will accept.

Based on my experience, it's not good to leave the phone connected to a charger continuously, the battery seems to decay much faster as the chemicals in the battery cease their reactions and actually build barriers between each other, so I charge my phones during the day and leave them off the charger at night. Conversely, other people charge all night and are off the charger all day. YMMV.

Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted folks to understand charging - the car battery has nothing to do with the phone battery longevity.

Cbtech 04-21-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainhead (Post 2277512)
Guys,

Cell phone batteries are mated specifically to the phone, therefore the phone has a unique regulator/temp sensor/voltage monitor that controls every aspect of the phone's battery. You can't "overcharge" or "overcurrent" the phone battery.

Each battery has a discharge curve, that curve is managed by the battery IC in the phone, there is a maximum that cannot be exceeded.

Each phone also has a charge curve, that curve is also managed by the battery IC in the phone, there also is a maximum that cannot be exceeded. This battery IC also monitors ambient temps and the temp of the battery and will decrease charge current based on battery temperature vs. ambient, a certain rise above ambient will trigger a change in the charge voltage/current curve.

Look at the current rating of the phone charger that is the maximum current the phone will use to charge the battery at the acceptable nominal rate AND run the phone and screen etc., so the user can charge and use simultaneously. The 5V USB voltage is used by the battery manager as follows:

Inside the phone the battery manager system monitors the battery voltage, there are these circuits called a buck and boost, they take the 3.7 volts and by means of a switching supply very efficiently increase/decrease the battery voltage to what ever level the circuitry of the phone requires. Usually the core of the SOC requires about 1.8 volts, other ancillary circuitry requires 3.3, and other parts - the radio transmitter etc., may require more than 5 volts.
What you also cannot do is drain the battery down too far (all phone batteries are 3.7 Volts, and when the voltage of the battery is down to say, 3.1 or 3.2 volts the phone will turn off and the battery is "drained" to the customer but actually the battery is far from dead.

Each Lion/LiPolymer battery has a certain number of full complete charge cycles in is lifetime, when those are exceeded you will notice that the battery may charge but won't last as long, this is because the depth of charge decreases as the charge cycles erode the chemicals in the battery, the chemicals only last so long so after a while the chemical reaction stops at a level below what the phone battery monitor will accept.

Based on my experience, it's not good to leave the phone connected to a charger continuously, the battery seems to decay much faster as the chemicals in the battery cease their reactions and actually build barriers between each other, so I charge my phones during the day and leave them off the charger at night. Conversely, other people charge all night and are off the charger all day. YMMV.

Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted folks to understand charging - the car battery has nothing to do with the phone battery longevity.

Yeah thats what i said...just yours was awesomer! :tup: but really good info very well said.

scope22 04-22-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2276509)
Try this and see if it works.

http://www.the370z.com/2144241-post5.html

looks like its not possible to stream at least with 09...sigh

bigaudiofanat 04-22-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainhead (Post 2277512)
Guys,

Cell phone batteries are mated specifically to the phone, therefore the phone has a unique regulator/temp sensor/voltage monitor that controls every aspect of the phone's battery. You can't "overcharge" or "overcurrent" the phone battery.

Each battery has a discharge curve, that curve is managed by the battery IC in the phone, there is a maximum that cannot be exceeded.

Each phone also has a charge curve, that curve is also managed by the battery IC in the phone, there also is a maximum that cannot be exceeded. This battery IC also monitors ambient temps and the temp of the battery and will decrease charge current based on battery temperature vs. ambient, a certain rise above ambient will trigger a change in the charge voltage/current curve.

Look at the current rating of the phone charger that is the maximum current the phone will use to charge the battery at the acceptable nominal rate AND run the phone and screen etc., so the user can charge and use simultaneously. The 5V USB voltage is used by the battery manager as follows:

Inside the phone the battery manager system monitors the battery voltage, there are these circuits called a buck and boost, they take the 3.7 volts and by means of a switching supply very efficiently increase/decrease the battery voltage to what ever level the circuitry of the phone requires. Usually the core of the SOC requires about 1.8 volts, other ancillary circuitry requires 3.3, and other parts - the radio transmitter etc., may require more than 5 volts.
What you also cannot do is drain the battery down too far (all phone batteries are 3.7 Volts, and when the voltage of the battery is down to say, 3.1 or 3.2 volts the phone will turn off and the battery is "drained" to the customer but actually the battery is far from dead.

Each Lion/LiPolymer battery has a certain number of full complete charge cycles in is lifetime, when those are exceeded you will notice that the battery may charge but won't last as long, this is because the depth of charge decreases as the charge cycles erode the chemicals in the battery, the chemicals only last so long so after a while the chemical reaction stops at a level below what the phone battery monitor will accept.

Based on my experience, it's not good to leave the phone connected to a charger continuously, the battery seems to decay much faster as the chemicals in the battery cease their reactions and actually build barriers between each other, so I charge my phones during the day and leave them off the charger at night. Conversely, other people charge all night and are off the charger all day. YMMV.

Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted folks to understand charging - the car battery has nothing to do with the phone battery longevity.

I understand completely what you are saying however from past experiences with multiple phones in different conditions along with articles read. I stand by using a car charger is a last resort. especially the (rapid chargers)

Fountainhead 04-22-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2279494)
I understand completely what you are saying however from past experiences with multiple phones in different conditions along with articles read. I stand by using a car charger is a last resort. especially the (rapid chargers)

Hi BAF,
Never use a cheap Wal-Mart or Pep Boys charger with a phone either in home or auto. When I buy a 12V to USB 5V convertor I always load it with the rated load (1A rated then I put 5 ohms across) and then measure the voltage under load. I also measure the voltage no load, which is important too. I wouldn't use an adapter that has a no load voltage over 5.25 V, and a loaded voltage below 4.75V. Those voltages are upper and lower limit of USB 2.0 standard, which governs the design of all USB chargers which output 5V.

I use car chargers all the time but I make sure they are name brand and tested by me. If they fail the tests above then I fix them, but if they are cheap Chinese knock offs I don't even bother.
I'm an electrical engineer and I design things to do with audio, car stereo, power supplies, etc.

bigaudiofanat 04-22-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainhead (Post 2279599)
Hi BAF,
Never use a cheap Wal-Mart or Pep Boys charger with a phone either in home or auto. When I buy a 12V to USB 5V convertor I always load it with the rated load (1A rated then I put 5 ohms across) and then measure the voltage under load. I also measure the voltage no load, which is important too. I wouldn't use an adapter that has a no load voltage over 5.25 V, and a loaded voltage below 4.75V. Those voltages are upper and lower limit of USB 2.0 standard, which governs the design of all USB chargers which output 5V.

I use car chargers all the time but I make sure they are name brand and tested by me. If they fail the tests above then I fix them, but if they are cheap Chinese knock offs I don't even bother.
I'm an electrical engineer and I design things to do with audio, car stereo, power supplies, etc.

I have only used verizon, Motorola, and LG car chargers before.

SurfDog 04-24-2013 03:18 PM

or you could try this and get better regulated charging with a mophie like i did.
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/m...522.249182.jpg

Threadlocker 04-28-2013 01:55 PM

Audio over BT is just not worth it. You lose way too much audio fidelity.

Fountainhead 04-30-2013 11:00 AM

I agree but just like CD vs. MP3 it's more convenient with no inherent physical connection, and when ultra low power BT is released and in mass production the battery life issues will be closed.
It's inevitable.

Nailzs 04-30-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threadlocker (Post 2289970)
Audio over BT is just not worth it. You lose way too much audio fidelity.

Audio via bluetooth from my Galaxy GS3 using Poweramp and .flac music files make my stock Bose system sound extremely good. It's amazing what can be done with the Poweramp equalizer and presets.

bigaudiofanat 04-30-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2294231)
Audio via bluetooth from my Galaxy GS3 using Poweramp and .flac music files make my stock Bose system sound extremely good. It's amazing what can be done with the Poweramp equalizer and presets.

You would have even better sound from aux or CD without EQ

Nailzs 05-01-2013 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2294242)
You would have even better sound from aux or CD without EQ

I can't put 750+ .flac music files on a CD like I can on a microsd card and the Bose systen doesn't have an aux connection. EQ is done to suite my ears.

Cbtech 05-01-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2294681)
I can't put 750+ .flac music files on a CD like I can on a microsd card and the Bose systen doesn't have an aux connection. EQ is done to suite my ears.

The Bose system does have an aux input in the front, its a 3.5mm plug. And you can put FLAC files on cd you would just have to burn it as an audio CD and would be limited to only 17 or 18 tracks

Fountainhead 05-02-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2294231)
Audio via bluetooth from my Galaxy GS3 using Poweramp and .flac music files make my stock Bose system sound extremely good. It's amazing what can be done with the Poweramp equalizer and presets.

Yeah PowerAmp is an awesome app, I always put it on all my Android phones.

omgwtfreally 12-06-2017 07:32 PM

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I own a 2017 so I've had this issue since I purchased it I'm tech savy but idk what's wrong, I can pair, but in my Bluetooth settings on my phone you have the audio connected and connected for audio talk two options for whatever reason since I got my car I can't do just audio I posted when I got it on here no one helped.... I went to the deslrrshio they were of no help I just wanna listen to Pandora :'(


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