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Quartermaine 09-04-2011 11:59 AM

Focal 165VB, need opinion
 
I just saw these Focal 165VB Polyglass 6.5" 2-way components on sale for $169. I am wondering if these will fit the Z and will the stock unit be able to drive these. I plan on upgrading the whole system later but just want to replace the speakers now. Also, should I be getting another pair for the rear? Thanks for the help.

MattP725 09-04-2011 02:57 PM

I thought I remembered someone saying that the stock bose and base had different size speakers... u might want to post what type of radio you have stock.

Quartermaine 09-04-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1297406)
I thought I remembered someone saying that the stock bose and base had different size speakers... u might want to post what type of radio you have stock.

Right! I have the base model stock radio, not Bose and no nav. Just plain old stock. Thanks.

TreeSemdyZee 09-04-2011 05:53 PM

Yes, they will fit. The door speakers are 6.5". You'll have to do quite a bit of work to get the tweeters to fit, but that goes for anything other than stock.
They will definitely sound better than stock. A toilet paper tube and some bailing wire would sound better than stock.
You'll also need a spacer to pull the speakers out a little.

There are quite a few threads on here about this.

Quartermaine 09-04-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 1297589)
Yes, they will fit. The door speakers are 6.5". You'll have to do quite a bit of work to get the tweeters to fit, but that goes for anything other than stock.
They will definitely sound better than stock. A toilet paper tube and some bailing wire would sound better than stock.
You'll also need a spacer to pull the speakers out a little.

There are quite a few threads on here about this.

Thanks. I just want to make sure they will fit before I buy them. I will also search for the posts about these speakers. Thanks again.

Oh, would you say this is a good deal?

TreeSemdyZee 09-04-2011 08:34 PM

I looks like a real good deal. Most other sites, Crutchfield, ABT, etc are carrying for about $300.
I checked resellerratings.com and 6th Avenue has very good reviews.

kree 09-04-2011 08:50 PM

I bought a Denon home stereo receiver from 6th Ave about six years ago. The price was right and the product performs as expected, so I wouldn't shy away from them. I suppose there is always a chance you'd get gray market gear, but my experience with them was good.

Quartermaine 09-04-2011 11:55 PM

Thanks guys! I will pick up a set.

bigaudiofanat 09-05-2011 07:07 AM

They will fit BUT WAIT,


if you are driving them off a stock head unit or even a aftermarket head unit you will be disappointed they want AMP power. Trust me I have installed a few sets of these, also do not forget to get the spacer ring from zenclosure and run new speakers wire.

Quartermaine 09-05-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1298265)
They will fit BUT WAIT,


if you are driving them off a stock head unit or even a aftermarket head unit you will be disappointed they want AMP power. Trust me I have installed a few sets of these, also do not forget to get the spacer ring from zenclosure and run new speakers wire.

Thanks for the advice. I will just hold on to these and do it all at the same time. Also, these ones are also on sale, Focal V130CA1 5.25" 2-way for $127. Will these fit the rear? It is just two holes there now behind my seats. Do I need it or just the front speakers will be adequate? Thanks again.

TreeSemdyZee 09-05-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Quartermaine (Post 1298559)
Thanks for the advice. I will just hold on to these and do it all at the same time. Also, these ones are also on sale, Focal V130CA1 5.25" 2-way for $127. Will these fit the rear? It is just two holes there now behind my seats. Do I need it or just the front speakers will be adequate? Thanks again.

Won't fit in rear. I put in 3 1/2" in rear. Somebody on here used 4", but they had to do a decent amount of modification.

I know bigaud will tell you that you don't need rears. I really like mine. It helps to fill the rear nicely. It's just whatever you like.

Quartermaine 09-05-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 1298568)
Won't fit in rear. I put in 3 1/2" in rear. Somebody on here used 4", but they had to do a decent amount of modification.

I know bigaud will tell you that you don't need rears. I really like mine. It helps to fill the rear nicely. It's just whatever you like.

Thanks. I haven't had a chance to hear one with 4 speakers installed. I guess I will track one down and see for myself. Thanks again for the help.

What is your setup like?

TreeSemdyZee 09-05-2011 02:16 PM

Kenwood KFC-P708 Component speakers in front.
Infinity Kappa 32.9cf in back.
Kenwood DNX9960 head unit.
I don't have an external amp and I get plenty of sound for my liking. I'm old though. :rolleyes:

bigaudiofanat 09-05-2011 02:31 PM

Correct, I do not see the need for rear speakers in a sports car. With a high quality set like the polyglass speakers you will not need them. Just my .02

Quartermaine 09-05-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1298598)
Correct, I do not see the need for rear speakers in a sports car. With a high quality set like the polyglass speakers you will not need them. Just my .02

I see. That will save me some money and put it toward other stuff :tup:.

Which components would you use to set up the car (a convertible)? What would you do if you were to set it up to your liking (with the focals as the front speakers)?

It is really too bad that you are on the east coast...

Quartermaine 09-05-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 1298588)
Kenwood KFC-P708 Component speakers in front.
Infinity Kappa 32.9cf in back.
Kenwood DNX9960 head unit.
I don't have an external amp and I get plenty of sound for my liking. I'm old though. :rolleyes:

How do you like it compare to the stock?

bigaudiofanat 09-05-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Quartermaine (Post 1298741)
I see. That will save me some money and put it toward other stuff :tup:.

Which components would you use to set up the car (a convertible)? What would you do if you were to set it up to your liking (with the focals as the front speakers)?

It is really too bad that you are on the east coast...


Hey that can be arranged. PM and we will talk :tup:

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/8...a-install.html

I would angle the tweeters to be aimed directly at you with fiberglass pods. Maybe a sub for extra bass because you lose a lot with a convertible. At least 100 watts to them for fast driving with loud clean music.

symple84 09-05-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1298947)
Hey that can be arranged. PM and we will talk :tup:

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/8...a-install.html

I would angle the tweeters to be aimed directly at you with fiberglass pods. Maybe a sub for extra bass because you lose a lot with a convertible. At least 100 watts to them for fast driving with loud clean music.

Is there a major difference in mounting the tweeters in the stock location??

bigaudiofanat 09-05-2011 08:54 PM

Yes, running them aimed to you "on axis" especially with focal tweeters will be more smooth and less harsh than running them in the stock location.

symple84 09-05-2011 09:55 PM

I would imagine those have to be custom made right?

bigaudiofanat 09-05-2011 09:56 PM

Yep

butdamnbrian 09-05-2011 10:52 PM

OP where in CA are you located?

also, i'm running focals v. similar to the set you're planning to install..

Quartermaine 09-06-2011 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by butdamnbrian (Post 1299117)
OP where in CA are you located?

also, i'm running focals v. similar to the set you're planning to install..

I am in southern California. I did a search before I posted this and your build post came up. It looked awesome. How does it sound?

butdamnbrian 09-06-2011 01:24 AM

it sounds great, man. i'm really liking the focals... you won't be disappointed.

i'm curious.. what are your install goals? i found it was a useful exercise to list out my goals at the outset, and my goals really drove my install decisions. plus my installer was ridiculous; great guy.

if you're not going to install yourself and are looking for an installer who's somewhat more local, check out the guy who did mine:

Home

he gets cars up from LA pretty frequently.

anyway, if you have any more specific questions, i can try to help.

Quartermaine 09-06-2011 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butdamnbrian (Post 1299213)
it sounds great, man. i'm really liking the focals... you won't be disappointed.

i'm curious.. what are your install goals? i found it was a useful exercise to list out my goals at the outset, and my goals really drove my install decisions. plus my installer was ridiculous; great guy.

if you're not going to install yourself and are looking for an installer who's somewhat more local, check out the guy who did mine:

Home

he gets cars up from LA pretty frequently.

anyway, if you have any more specific questions, i can try to help.

Thanks! I will pm you later. And thanks Matt for your advice. Thanks again guys.


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