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JerryK 04-26-2009 08:43 AM

8" Subwoofer box WITH spare tire
 
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I'm upgrading my stock system with 6.5 components, amp and a subwoofer. I figure 8" is plenty for this car and my music preference. I wanted to keep the spare tire, so I looked for a sub with minimum box volume requirements. The 8" JL W6 only needs .375 cubic feet, so I fashioned a round box that fits down in the spare tire. It's 15" in diameter by 4.5" or so tall. I used a round tub I found at Lowes for a vessel to set dimensions for the fiberglass sides, the top and bottom are 5/8" MDF. I used epoxy resin with two thicknesses of mat and cloth. Epoxy resin is expensive, but it's strong and doesn't have that resin smell of the others. The carpet can go over the top, but I may cut it out and put a grill on it. Still working on the rest, hopefully it will be installed in two weeks.

antennahead 04-26-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryK (Post 63325)
I'm upgrading my stock system with 6.5 components, amp and a subwoofer. I figure 8" is plenty for this car and for my music preference. I wanted to keep the spare tire, so I looked for a sub with minimum box volume requirements. The 8" JL W6 only needs .375 cubic feet, so I fashioned a round box that fits down in the spare tire. It's 15" in diameter by 4.5" or so tall. I used a round tub I found at Lowes for a vessel to set dimensions for the fiberglass sides, the top and bottom are 5/8" MDF. I used epoxy resin with toe thicknesses of mat and cloth. Epoxy resin is expensive, but it's strong and doesn't have that resin smell of the others. The carpet can go over the top, but I may cut it out and put a grill on it. Still working on the rest, hopefully it will be installed in two weeks.

:tup: Yes my man, this is what I have been waiting to see for the 370!!!! I need to keep my spare AND trunk space, and have thought from the start that THIS was the solution. Glad to see you took the initiative to do it. I agree with you, an 8" is plenty for this car. I anticipate we will be seeing aftermarket versions of this solution soon, possibly from Zenclosures.

John

AK370Z 04-26-2009 10:02 AM

Great job. this is a perfect solution for members who do not want to get rid of their spare (like me :o). We def want to see a DIY for this.(oh and also the plastic tub item no :icon17:)

Good luck with the great project!
:tup:

antennahead 04-26-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryK (Post 63325)
I'm upgrading my stock system with 6.5 components, amp and a subwoofer. I figure 8" is plenty for this car and my music preference. I wanted to keep the spare tire, so I looked for a sub with minimum box volume requirements. The 8" JL W6 only needs .375 cubic feet, so I fashioned a round box that fits down in the spare tire. It's 15" in diameter by 4.5" or so tall. I used a round tub I found at Lowes for a vessel to set dimensions for the fiberglass sides, the top and bottom are 5/8" MDF. I used epoxy resin with two thicknesses of mat and cloth. Epoxy resin is expensive, but it's strong and doesn't have that resin smell of the others. The carpet can go over the top, but I may cut it out and put a grill on it. Still working on the rest, hopefully it will be installed in two weeks.

A quick question. Is the top of your enclosure wide enough diameter wise to house one of the JL thinlines? The 13TW5 needs about 13 inches, the 12TW5 isn't listed on the websit yet, but probably needs about 12". The depth of these subs is only 2.5", and have gotten some good reviews. Thanks.

John

JerryK 04-26-2009 11:48 AM

Yes, the top of the fiberglass circular tub/box is about 14.75" inside diameter, the MDF top circle is 20". You could run either one. Check the cubic inches recommended for the enclosure, every inch of 15" diameter is 176 cubic inches. (There's 1728 cubic inches in a cubic foot.) 15" is the largest diameter that fits down in the spare on top of the hold-down nut of the tire, you could go smaller diameter if you need to. If you needed more cubes you could go another inch or so higher without crowding your trunk. Remember to subtract the volume of the subwoofer itself.

frost 04-26-2009 11:52 AM

Hot. Good job mate. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/images.../happy0180.gif

Jeff Smith 04-26-2009 11:54 AM

Nice idea. But since the JL sub is no longer being made I'd recommend either the Pioneer or Kenwood shallow 8' sub. I'd like to try this

antennahead 04-26-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Smith (Post 63384)
Nice idea. But since the JL sub is no longer being made I'd recommend either the Pioneer or Kenwood shallow 8' sub. I'd like to try this

Not a fan of the JL shallow subs?

John

Jeff Smith 04-26-2009 12:15 PM

I love the JL flat sub but there isnt enough air space for it to fit into the spare tire and sound it's best. Thats all.

SoCal 370Z 04-26-2009 12:26 PM

Are you going to try to incorporate the tire clamp (the large round plastic cover with the threaded bolt embedded in it to hold-down the spare)? On the Bose supplied system the bolt is simply longer and fastens down the sub and spare tire. I love the ingenuity here, and hope it makes it the DIYer section.

Ingenuity = Rep Point :tup:

Dreamin'Z 04-26-2009 12:32 PM

Dude That's awesome... I have the same exact sub I'm in Alaska right now but when I get home it's on

antennahead 04-26-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Smith (Post 63397)
I love the JL flat sub but there isnt enough air space for it to fit into the spare tire and sound it's best. Thats all.

Thanks for the advice. Looks like the Pioneer would be a good choice.
The 10" states it can work in a .35 sealed box.

John

JerryK 04-26-2009 12:43 PM

SoCal-- I considered using the spare threaded hold-down to fasten the box, but then I'd have to unscrew the subwoofer to get to the hold-down to remove the spare tire. I plan on hooking the box to the rear sheet metal so it doesn't come flying in an accident.

JL has other 8" subs (as do others) if you can't get the cubic space you need for a flat 10 or 12" version. I believe the flats require more power, also.

SoCal 370Z 04-26-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryK (Post 63405)
SoCal-- I considered using the spare threaded hold-down to fasten the box, but then I'd have to unscrew the subwoofer to get to the hold-down to remove the spare tire. I plan on hooking the box to the rear sheet metal so it doesn't come flying in an accident.

JL has other 8" subs (as do others) if you can't get the cubic space you need for a flat 10 or 12" version. I believe the flats require more power, also.

Depending on your outer housing circumference, could you spin the entire assembly with the clamp being embedded at the bottom of your housing. Just a suggestion as I don't want you doing something I suggest and then it turns out like crap, and you end up hating my suggestion. ;)

JerryK 04-26-2009 01:04 PM

You could spin it, as long as you could disconnect the wiring.

SoCal 370Z 04-26-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryK (Post 63417)
You could spin it, as long as you could disconnect the wiring.

On the Bose system they have disconnect so that you can remove the assembly when accessing the spare. The clamp bolt goes straight the center on the Bose so you unscrew it as you would the one with just a spare.

NA&CH 04-26-2009 01:21 PM

great job. Cant wait to see the final product.

Chris

Jeff Smith 04-27-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 63403)
Thanks for the advice. Looks like the Pioneer would be a good choice.
The 10" states it can work in a .35 sealed box.

John


Ok your correct that the pioneer specs say that it will wk in .35-.7 cu ft of air space but that's only after you take out for .06 for the woofers displacement inside the box. Which means you need at least .41 before you put the sub in. I sell and install these subs at work and the best box for the 10" is .66 which is what pioneer recommends. In the .35 box it's we call high bass. It makes a sound like boink (85hz) peak instead of boom (50hz peak) in a car. The older JL 8W6 is a waaaay more forgiving sub that the pioneer in smaller boxes.

antennahead 04-27-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Smith (Post 63701)
Ok your correct that the pioneer specs say that it will wk in .35-.7 cu ft of air space but that's only after you take out for .06 for the woofers displacement inside the box. Which means you need at least .41 before you put the sub in. I sell and install these subs at work and the best box for the 10" is .66 which is what pioneer recommends. In the .35 box it's we call high bass. It makes a sound like boink (85hz) peak instead of boom (50hz peak) in a car. The older JL 8W6 is a waaaay more forgiving sub that the pioneer in smaller boxes.

Recommendations for a fit in a spare tire custom box? Would the 8" Pioneer shallow mount be a better choice based on the cabinet size and displacement?

John

Jeff Smith 04-27-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by antennahead (Post 63704)
Recommendations for a fit in a spare tire custom box?

John

I'd have to measure is properly first. If I can get SR2449 to bring me his spare I can wk on this in my "SPARE" time lol! :happydance:

antennahead 04-27-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Smith (Post 63708)
I'd have to measure is properly first. If I can get SR2449 to bring me his spare I can wk on this in my "SPARE" time lol! :happydance:

Sounds like we need to light a fire under SR2449 :rofl2:

John

le6tat 11-17-2009 07:22 PM

Would it be any trouble to see anymore pics of you project. I would be very interested in seeing them.
~s

KaienZ34 11-21-2009 04:10 PM

bump

jikhead 12-03-2009 07:10 PM

How's this project going?

kannibul 12-04-2009 04:13 PM

How are you keeping the spare bolted in - else, won't it rattle/slide around?

SlikNik 12-04-2009 04:44 PM

Looks great, can't wait to see the finished product


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