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NewYorkJon34 06-07-2010 11:09 AM

PAC SWI-JACK kit wiring & programming is impossible, SOS
 
I have a Kenwood DNX-5120 installed and I need to know exactly how to wire the PAC kit, then program it. I have read the instructions from Pac and it's pretty confusing, if anyone has installed the Pac kit successfully, please let me know how you installed it, thanks Rep+ to whoever helps.

Liquid_G 06-07-2010 01:33 PM

i think the hardest part was figuring out which wires to use/not use.. and soldering the resistors seems like it take like four hands... :)

Did you try reading the sticky?
http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/4...ol-wiring.html

NewYorkJon34 06-07-2010 01:44 PM

Ya that's just a copy of the PAC instructions which I've been told are not 100% accurate. did you install the Pac-Swi-Jack yourself?

kenchan 06-07-2010 01:48 PM

first make sure you got one that works with your HU manufacturer. there are a few types.

then follow the instructions step by step and make sure you solder your connections. yes taps can work, but those resistor leads can slip out unless you have a decent crimper. even though im a crimper type, for this process i soldered the leads.

NewYorkJon34 06-07-2010 02:27 PM

As soon as my GT-R push button comes in I'm going to try it again & read each step slowly. My friend & I actually installed the kenwood unit and everything is perfect except for the PAC so I'm trying to gather as much info as I could. We got to the part where you are suppost to either press or hold?, one of the steering wheel buttons and the little led is suppost to come back on, but it didn't. I wish there were pics on this, if we figure it out, I'm making it a d.I.y I swear.

Liquid_G 06-07-2010 02:58 PM

that sounds like maybe an issue with one of your connections.. maybe double check that and make sure your resistors are wired properly.. maybe also check the your resistors are "resisting" the right amount of ohms with a multimeter.

kenchan 06-07-2010 04:40 PM

yah, there is a step in there to program it, but if the LED didn't respond chances are you tapped the wrong wire, used the wrong resistor, or you got a loose wire.

recon0701 06-07-2010 05:45 PM

Hi guys I'm jons installer and I to make sure I taped the right wire its the blue and and the pink right and also what wires connect to the kenwood. Now I am a professional but this is my second time wiring one of these and my first time wiring to a 370. also what watt are the resistors?

NewYorkJon34 06-07-2010 06:29 PM

Bump, Can anyone respond to recon0701's question, thanks :ugh2:

TreeSemdyZee 06-07-2010 11:39 PM

I won't be much help, but I had the PAC and hated it with a passion. I just installed a Metra ASWC and it is fabulous. No delay in response time and it autoprograms also.

The white wire from the SWI-JACK will connect to both resistors. These two resistors then connect to the pink and blue wires in the car.
•Pin 16 (blue wire) uses 150 ohm resistor.
•Pin 6 (Pink) uses a 47 ohm resistors.
•Pin 15 (black) is grounded.
DO NOT cut the loops.
Black wire to ground, red wire to switched power.

ON the other side, connect the yellow and green/blue(can't remember which) to the remote wire on the Kenwood. You won't use the plug for your Kenwood.Tape it up.

They are 1/4 watt. Per PAC, 1/2 watt will work.

NewYorkJon34 06-08-2010 10:35 AM

I almost was gonna switch the PAC kit out for the metra kit, but then I would have had to return the PAC, & buy the little USB upgrade cord while I lost money along the way. How bad can the PAC really be?

kenchan 06-08-2010 11:17 AM

i used another brand than PAC that BestBuy had at my local store... Peripheral or something it was called. the wiring was exactly the same though with the PAC.

no delay either.

kenchan 06-08-2010 11:19 AM

btw, just a FYI.... BestBuy price matches if you bring a print-out of a deal you found elsewhere online. i usually bring print outs from amazon and some ebay stores and they match it. :p

xiven 06-08-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 567924)
i used another brand than PAC that BestBuy had at my local store... Peripheral or something it was called. the wiring was exactly the same though with the PAC.

no delay either.

i was told that peripheral, and PAC are basically all the same thing was just a different name. but the metra axxis is a whole different module. OP, i still have yet to rip apart my dash again and figure out what 2 wires they tapped into.

kenchan 06-08-2010 11:40 AM

^^ i think you're right! :)

fairlady_Z 06-08-2010 12:43 PM

Matt (bigaudiofanat) did mine a few months back and it works GREAT! I have a Kenwood DNX6960 (which he also installed).:tup:

NewYorkJon34 06-08-2010 03:09 PM

^Do you have the Pac or the Metra Axxess?

fairlady_Z 06-08-2010 03:13 PM

Pac

bigaudiofanat 06-08-2010 05:03 PM

Yes,

What you have to do is install the resistors to the wires that it specifies. We decided to cut them out of the harness and solder them directly to the resistors. After fiddling with it I found out that you have to prepare the pac for programing. You have to make it go into version 3 or 4 "can not remember" before you start programing or before it will start recognizing the buttons you press. You do this by "with what I remember" turning the car off holding the program button in turn the car on when it starts flashing press the button how many times fo the correct version after that it will blink saying what version it is in. Than turn the car off that back on to start programming. If you need more help please ask. I hope this helps though.

NewYorkJon34 06-08-2010 05:59 PM

Is the Pac a pain in the A$$ as everyone says it is? Is it bad enough to switch to the Metra Axxess kit?

TreeSemdyZee 06-08-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiven (Post 567937)
i was told that peripheral, and PAC are basically all the same thing was just a different name. but the metra axxis is a whole different module. OP, i still have yet to rip apart my dash again and figure out what 2 wires they tapped into.

No rippage needed. See my post.

alvinmathew88 06-09-2010 07:29 AM

Why not go with Axxess, it doesnt have the time lag like Pac and it auto programs as well!

NewYorkJon34 06-09-2010 09:08 AM

I'm just gonna switch it for the metra kit, I heard it's confusing to wire, does anyone that has the metra kit know how it's wired?

TreeSemdyZee 06-09-2010 12:42 PM

The Metra wiring is similar to the PAC. Still uses the pink and blue wires.
The pink in the car is the source and track up/down switch on the steering. The blue wire is the volume just for clarification's sake.
Metra's instructions are a whole lot less confusing so you shouldn't really have a big issue.

NewYorkJon34 06-09-2010 05:17 PM

^what did you do about the upgrade cable, did you buy it?

TreeSemdyZee 06-09-2010 06:39 PM

^ Yes. I eBayed it. I don't know that it's necessary. I installed two different head units, so on the second one, I ended up doing the manual programming and it was pretty easy. You could install the unit and if it didn't work properly, it's simple to take the box out while leaving all of the wiring in. Take it to your computer, update it, then reinstall.

I put it in so that all I need to do to remove the brain unit is to pull up the shift surround and then I can reach in and disconnect the box.

NewYorkJon34 06-09-2010 07:12 PM

Do you still have the USB cord? Anyway you could ship it to me & I'll update my unit then ship it back to you.

TreeSemdyZee 06-09-2010 07:20 PM

Sure. PM me your address. And I'll send it.

NewYorkJon34 06-09-2010 07:27 PM

I just ordered the metra kit off amazon, I really appreciate it and don't worry others on the site can vouch for me that I'm a good guy so your cord will be safe. And I'll send you the tracking number when I send it back even. You update the unit on the metra website right?

NewYorkJon34 06-09-2010 07:37 PM

Pm sent :tup:

TreeSemdyZee 06-09-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 570316)
I just ordered the metra kit off amazon, I really appreciate it and don't worry others on the site can vouch for me that I'm a good guy so your cord will be safe. And I'll send you the tracking number when I send it back even. You update the unit on the metra website right?

I don't know. I've heard you were a little shifty. :icon17:
No worries.

Here's the update link:

Axxess Interface

NewYorkJon34 06-09-2010 09:09 PM

^The only thing shifty about me is I like to shift, lol :driving:


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