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OldGuy 02-21-2010 06:59 PM

Base(ic) Question
 
Pardon the pun. My music sounds so much richer when played from the CD in my base Z, rather than from my iPod, through the iPod jack on the head unit. Why is this? Is there anything I can do to make the iPod recordings of those cd's sound stronger short of a new sound system. The system seems OK when used with original cd's. Hate to replace it if the iPod sound is still going to be inferior to the cd's. I just don't want to have to carry my cd's around all the time.

kenchan 02-21-2010 07:14 PM

is that the 3.5mm cord u are using? if so, try a different cord. some cords just loose so much fidelity.

you should also consider getting a new aftermarket headunit...

OldGuy 02-21-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 411671)
is that the 3.5mm cord u are using? if so, try a different cord. some cords just loose so much fidelity.

you should also consider getting a new aftermarket headunit...

I'm not sure its just a basic Radio Shack cheapee. I check upgrading the cable. Could be an improvement at small cost. Thanks.

jikhead 02-21-2010 07:52 PM

All your tunes if bought from iTunes is only at 128kbps. Not sure what it is if you rip your own CD's to iTunes; but this is why I don't like iPods/iTunes. A standard CD is like around 1411kbps. Your CD player will always sound better & louder than your media player; even if the CD contains MP3's or whatever. I only purchase 320kbps MP3, as this is the highest MP3 format there is next to CD quality.

bigaudiofanat 02-21-2010 08:08 PM

For a more detailed description read this.

First post
http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/6...dio-101-a.html

OldGuy 02-21-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jikhead (Post 411787)
All your tunes if bought from iTunes is only at 128kbps. Not sure what it is if you rip your own CD's to iTunes; but this is why I don't like iPods/iTunes. A standard CD is like around 1411kbps. Your CD player will always sound better & louder than your media player; even if the CD contains MP3's or whatever. I only purchase 320kbps MP3, as this is the highest MP3 format there is next to CD quality.

So if I burn the favorite songs in my computer (iPod) onto homemade cd's, they will be superior to hearing them through the car's sound system when sent into the system from the iPod. I got it. Tha's a shame. I'm disappointed as I was hoping/expecting that the iPod jack would replace the need to carry around all my cd's. I guess it does, provided I'm willing to accept the degraded sound quality. Is the Music Box on the high tech package just as good as the cd sound or is it also compromised?

bigaudiofanat 02-21-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 411817)
So if I burn the favorite songs in my computer (iPod) onto homemade cd's, they will be superior to hearing them through the car's sound system when sent into the system from the iPod. I got it. Tha's a shame. I'm disappointed as I was hoping/expecting that the iPod jack would replace the need to carry around all my cd's. I guess it does, provided I'm willing to accept the degraded sound quality. Is the Music Box on the high tech package just as good as the cd sound or is it also compromised?

No that will not help, the music is still going to be compressed. Please read over the above article and you should get a clear understanding. The music box I am not sure I believe even that compresses the music to some extent but I would not know. Another way to get better sound is to upgrade your head unit to one that has a ipod connector cable not just a 3.5mm plug.This way your bypassing the internal dac or digital to analog converter.

OldGuy 02-21-2010 08:12 PM

Thank you. Very informative.

White 370Z 02-22-2010 01:45 AM

Hey Bro,
If you get a Ipod Dock connector to 3.5mm, you will have CD quality audio from you AXU input. It will give you a line level output. Itunes is fine.

Amazon.com: Cables To Go 35508 4ft iPod-Compatible 3.5mm to Dock Connector Audio Cable: Electronics

Hope that helps.

2fast4thelaw 02-23-2010 08:40 AM

It's actually becasue the iPod is using the digital/analog converters built into the ipod and then the signal is porting directly into the stock stereo and amplified.

Lets say you get an aftermarked headunit like the Alpine IVA series with IPod functionality. The difference is the digital/analog converters inside the Ipod are bypassed and the much higher quality ones in the head unit are used instead.

This makes a HUGE difference in sound quality.

kenchan 02-23-2010 08:33 PM

^^ that is quite possible. i agree.

Slynky 02-24-2010 09:27 AM

Interesting.

Though, at my age, it's probably not much of a concern. Add in road noise in the Z and there goes some more "interference". And don't even talk to me about the windows down :eek: Noisiest open windows I've ever heard in a car.

Slynky 02-24-2010 09:28 AM

And besides, what's all this talk of 3.5 connector? My Z just has the usual jacks and the USB connector. The USB connector is what I hook the iPod up to (but to segue to another thread, it doesn't work as advertised most of the time).

370Zsteve 02-24-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 411652)
Pardon the pun. My music sounds so much richer when played from the CD in my base Z, rather than from my iPod, through the iPod jack on the head unit. Why is this? Is there anything I can do to make the iPod recordings of those cd's sound stronger short of a new sound system. The system seems OK when used with original cd's. Hate to replace it if the iPod sound is still going to be inferior to the cd's. I just don't want to have to carry my cd's around all the time.

The quality of a prerecorded CD is far superior to a compressed MP3 file.

370Zsteve 02-24-2010 09:39 AM

iPod Bluetooth adapters are available, no? O wait, base stereo has no Bluetooth, right?


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