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Horizon 04-14-2021 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BobW (Post 3991966)
I just replaced my drivers side regulator to cure the rattle. Not a super hard job. Just spent some time getting the window aligned after reassembly. After some of these comments I will take another look at the one I took out. I assumed the problem was some play in the track from all the up/downing every time you open the door. The part itself wasn’t that expensive. $133 shipped to me. There are aftermarket ones too. Not much price difference though.

Well, like CyFI6 said, a replacement doesn’t exactly fix the issue. Could you please take a detailed video of the window regulator, and show which piece is the one that rattles?

halonut 10-08-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CyFi6 (Post 3932558)
I wanted to provide some input on this because even my 2017 Z with less than 10K miles started to have the infamous window rattle. I was able to narrow it down to what appears to be a device that keeps tension on the cable used to drive the window up and down. It a spring loaded device with a 2 piece toothed ratchet mechanism.

When the window is moved upward, slack is created in the cable at the tensioner location and the spring keeps tension on the cable. When the window is moved downward the ratchet engages and allows precise movement of the window without letting the spring compress.

When the window is rolled all the way up pressure is removed from the ratchet gear and since it is free floating in there its loose and starts to rattle. I think this is more pronounced as the cable stretches which may be why a new regulator doesn't rattle but not long after will start to rattle. As soon as you start to move the window back down the ratchet re-engages and the noise goes away.

I ended up removing the ratchet piece of the gear entirely to get rid of the rattle. Alternatively you might be able to pack the inside of the mechanism with a thick grease to prevent the gear from rattling. Removing the ratchet in theory would make the down movement of the window less precise since the first initial movement of the regulator motor would be used to compress the spring, but I haven't seen any noticeable difference and the window still moves down and out of the way quickly when opening the door.

Its easy to take the tensioner apart, simply compress the spring and then undo the cable from the pulley marked with the green arrow. Once the tension is relieved from the cable the tensioner will come apart and you can remove the gear piece or coat it with heavy grease.

You will of course need to remove the glass and the regulator assembly to get to this since its behind the big metal panel in the door.

Hopefully this is helpful for someone. If anyone else can figure out a better way to prevent the free floating ratchet from rattling please chime in.

has anybody else tried this? and did it work? sounds like it is probably the cause & a good fix but I'd like to know if has worked for others.

Thanks!

halonut 10-08-2021 11:26 AM

regulator panel removal required for door stay replacement?
 
I've got the infamous window rattle at fully closed & also have the equally infamous door (driver) that won't stay open. I have a new door stay on order & am pretty sure that I have to remove the regulator panel to get access to replace the stay...can anyone confirm? obviously I'd like to take care of both issues at the same time.

Thanks!

halonut 10-08-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BobW (Post 3991966)
I just replaced my drivers side regulator to cure the rattle. Not a super hard job. Just spent some time getting the window aligned after reassembly. After some of these comments I will take another look at the one I took out. I assumed the problem was some play in the track from all the up/downing every time you open the door. The part itself wasn’t that expensive. $133 shipped to me. There are aftermarket ones too. Not much price difference though.

do you have a link to the A/M unit (driver side) I can't even find a new OEM, only used & no A/M ones. I believe the A/M units are built in a way that is supposed to eliminate this problem?

Thanks!

halonut 10-16-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NitroZ (Post 3940037)
I wish it was easy peasy. Took inside door panel off. Wiring. Insulated. Tied things together. No obvious rattle or anything loose. Used black silicone to help hold all the plastic buttons in place. Everything that was even remotely loose was stabilized. Its either inside the door or related to whatever moves the window up or down or something else. It sound like if you were to cups your hands together and shake two or three bottle caps. More plastic than metallic. SO annoying. :confused:

The foam fix worked for me & it was really easy. Just remove the door panel & speaker enclosure, then I snuck my arm in (tight fit but very doable) & put a 4" piece of that round foam pipe insulation around the adjuster with the ratchet (see pics above). Then I cut about 6" off the end of a pool noodle & wedged it in between the door frame & the piece of pipe insulation (do all of this with the window up & test drive before reassembling). No removal of window or regulator required.

The rattle is gone & I don't have to drop the window slightly...just nice & quiet now. It was also super easy to replace the door stay while I was at it so now I have a nice quiet door that stays open.

ps: you will need to reset the window after completion...just roll all the way down & then all the way up holding the switch in the up position for at least 5 seconds.

Horizon 10-16-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by halonut (Post 4011423)
The foam fix worked for me & it was really easy. Just remove the door panel & speaker enclosure, then I snuck my arm in (tight fit but very doable) & put a 4" piece of that round foam pipe insulation around the adjuster with the ratchet (see pics above). Then I cut about 6" off the end of a pool noodle & wedged it in between the door frame & the piece of pipe insulation (do all of this with the window up & test drive before reassembling). No removal of window or regulator required.

The rattle is gone & I don't have to drop the window slightly...just nice & quiet now. It was also super easy to replace the door stay while I was at it so now I have a nice quiet door that stays open.

ps: you will need to reset the window after completion...just roll all the way down & then all the way up holding the switch in the up position for at least 5 seconds.

Hey Halonut, could you stick your phone in there and take a video of how you set it up? I read your explanation, but a video would be much easier to comprehend. Thank you!!

halonut 10-25-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 4011429)
Hey Halonut, could you stick your phone in there and take a video of how you set it up? I read your explanation, but a video would be much easier to comprehend. Thank you!!

LOL...no it's all buttoned up now. It's super easy, just take the door panel off (youtube vids) Remove the speaker enclosure (4 screws) and then you can feel the slack adjuster thing referenced in the previous post (roll the window all the way up & it's on the bottom about 8" or so in). Just immobilize that so it's not free to rattle & you're golden.

Horizon 03-15-2022 04:49 PM

Video Tutorial for Rattle Fix
 
Hey guys, I just completed this DIY and completely fixed my rattle! I recorded the process from start to finish and will be uploading a YouTube video on it soon. It’s not a perfect tutorial, but it is more than enough to get the job done. In case my signature isn’t below this comment, my YouTube channel is ThatRedNismo. If you don’t want to watch the video, the write-up by user CyFi6 (or something like that) posted above will tell you the general explanation of how to fix the issue. If you’re concerned about how to adjust the window after reinstalling it, check out this video: https://youtu.be/_voJoMBUo3g.

MZ DAIZY 03-23-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 4021818)
Hey guys, I just completed this DIY and completely fixed my rattle! I recorded the process from start to finish and will be uploading a YouTube video on it soon. It’s not a perfect tutorial, but it is more than enough to get the job done. In case my signature isn’t below this comment, my YouTube channel is ThatRedNismo. If you don’t want to watch the video, the write-up by user CyFi6 (or something like that) posted above will tell you the general explanation of how to fix the issue. If you’re concerned about how to adjust the window after reinstalling it, check out this video: https://youtu.be/_voJoMBUo3g.

I got rid of the annoying sound by telling my wife she’s not allowed in Ms Daisy anymore...

Oh, wait, you said annoying rattle. Nevermind... my bad.... carry on, I’ll be ova here if ya needs me! :icon14:

Horizon 04-07-2022 09:14 PM

Fixed - diy tutorial
 
Hey guys, I finally fixed the issue and recorded the entire process. Here is the link to the video on my youtube channel. https://youtu.be/aTeq8NIkjZ8. That link currently takes you to the unlisted video, but I will be making it public in a week or two. In case the link stops working after that, my channel is youtube.com/thatrednismo.

geeteezee 07-01-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 4023179)
Hey guys, I finally fixed the issue and recorded the entire process. Here is the link to the video on my youtube channel. https://youtu.be/aTeq8NIkjZ8. That link currently takes you to the unlisted video, but I will be making it public in a week or two. In case the link stops working after that, my channel is youtube.com/thatrednismo.

Private video. Don't see it in your uploads.

SUPGUYZ 08-05-2022 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 4011429)
Hey Halonut, could you stick your phone in there and take a video of how you set it up? I read your explanation, but a video would be much easier to comprehend. Thank you!!

I just did this. I used pipe insulation and a foam pad. Attached is a rough beginning of what it looked like before finessing the wedged in foam. I couldn't get a pool noodle to fit with that little space. Also, wear Kevlar sleeves or something. My brother and I have nasty bruised fore arms now...lol

http://www.the370z.com/members/supgu...ampictures.jpg

BoilardZ 07-29-2023 10:29 PM

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Here's another potential cause of a rattle in the door when the window is up: There's a plastic adjuster that rides in the window regulator track, and it stops against a metal tab. (See photo for these two points, circled in red.)
When the two parts meet, it can cause a rattle. I fixed my rattle by simply adding a small rubber pad on that metal tab, where the plastic adjuster meets it. Super easy fix (once you pull off the door panel and then remove the regulator!)

Steve

Horizon 12-08-2023 04:31 PM

The video is public now!


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