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J-BoneZ 05-16-2010 11:19 AM

First Wrecked 40th Anniversary?!?!?!
 
As much as I hate to say it, that title may belong to me gentlemen. Was sitting at a light on my way to work the other day and was rear ended by someone who wasn't paying to attention to what the hell was going on!:mad:

Fortunately the parts that were damaged can be removed and replaced with new parts. Right now I'm looking at a new rear bumper, new driver side tail light and new exhaust since that ended up being bent and possibly any damage that was done underneath the bumper that i can't see. Thank god that no body work needs to be done at all. I was not injured because she wasn't going very fast but it still pisses me off to have it happen to a car that has less than 3000 miles and it being so limited.:shakes head:

It's been 3 days now since it's been at the body and let me tell you they have really sucked!! This mustang that I have as a rental makes me realize how much i truly enjoy driving my Z on an everyday basis.

Once the body shop sends me pictures of the damage I'll post them up here for all to see. I would have taken some myself but I don't own a digital camera at the moment.

Gunzero 05-16-2010 11:29 AM

:( Dern kids.

didymus 05-16-2010 11:37 AM

There are actually several others, seems like a recent trend.. Regardless it sucks! Glad no onewas injured!

SoCal 370Z 05-16-2010 12:21 PM

Sorry about this happening to you.

My theory why this is potentially happening to owners:

The 370Z taillights provide a forced perspective of movement and our third brake light is lower than the top portion of the rear taillights. The taillights give the illusion of forward movement by tapering off into the horizon. The 350Z breaks-up this illusion through having the third brake light at the top of the rear hatch—your vision stops there with a definitive horizontal light bar. Our third brake light is low (and under the rear wing on the sports package) when being viewed by a taller vehicle or a fast approaching vehicle. This is my theory and I welcome others to constructively critique it (except Nissan's corporate shills, lawyers, PR and marketing).

Our taillights are literally pointing forward. The best taillights that convey the most definitive statement when lighted are Ferrari's. Circular, vertical to the plane, unmistakable visual indication—at any speed. The 370Z's taillights are more a stylistic statement versus form follows function.

CBRich 05-16-2010 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 539314)
Sorry about this happening to you.

My theory why this is potentially happening to owners:

The 370Z taillights provide a forced perspective of movement and our third brake light is lower than the top portion of the rear taillights. The taillights give the illusion of forward movement by tapering off into the horizon. The 350Z breaks-up this illusion through having the third brake light at the top of the rear hatch—your vision stops there with a definitive horizontal light bar. Our third brake light is low (and under the rear wing on the sports package) when being viewed by a taller vehicle or a fast approaching vehicle. This is my theory and I welcome others to constructively critique it (except Nissan's corporate shills, lawyers, PR and marketing).

Our taillights are literally pointing forward. The best taillights that convey the most definitive statement when lighted are Ferrari's. Circular, vertical to the plane, unmistakable visual indication—at any speed. The 370Z's taillights are more a stylistic statement versus form follows function.

Or people aren't paying attention. Either way.

dad 05-16-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 539314)
Our taillights are literally pointing forward.

You've got me scratching my head on that one! pointing forward?

SoCal 370Z 05-16-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 539488)
You've got me scratching my head on that one! pointing forward?

They trail off as if in a vanishing point. I really need to do a pictorial on this as I was able to demonstrate my theory with another member with both a 350Z and 370Z present. They convey the illusion of forced perspective, but in the sense of a vast horizon ahead leading your eyes ahead versus terminating in a definitive manner. I believe that the mind's interpretation of the taillights is altered into believing that it is more than it should be. My wife tells me she is constantly leaving space ahead of her so that she can tighten up into the space as vehicles keep getting to close to the Z. This is her number one pet peeve with the Z; next comes the overtly large side mirrors. I used the Ferrari reference as Ferrari truly understands style, but they are also keenly aware of function. The 370Z is a very stylish automobile, but style has also trumped many aspects of the 370Z's function. My neighbor has a 599 GTB and the styling carries so well with its function too; a stark contrast when compared to the 370Z. (Yes, I know there is a bit of price difference, but the function of a vehicle is not something that should be associated with the price of a vehicle).

didymus 05-16-2010 03:38 PM

Interesting theory.. do you have a fog/brake light installed?

SoCal 370Z 05-16-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by didymus (Post 539639)
do you have a fog/brake light installed?

No, but I do believe that it can enter into this equation and my wife has requested that I install it.

ZCarMan 05-16-2010 04:31 PM

My theory is that for most people, trying to stop while texting, talking to the passenger next to you and/or trying to change your clothes, read a book, put on your make up all make it pretty difficult and darned near inconvenient to stop for anyone who may be at a stop light. Thank goodness nobody was hurt but I feel your pain and hope that I can dodge all those distracted drivers when the time comes.

dad 05-16-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by J-BoneZ (Post 539247)
As much as I hate to say it, that title may belong to me gentlemen. Was sitting at a light on my way to work the other day and was rear ended by someone who wasn't paying to attention to what the hell was going on!:mad:

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Bummer! That sucks!

J-BoneZ 05-16-2010 04:44 PM

I really don't know what the lady was doing, she admitted that she just wasn't paying attention. The reason i was rear ended though was because there was a city bus stop just on the other side of the light, the light turned green the 2 cars in front of me and myself moved forward some and came back to a stop because the bus stopped in front of us to pick people up. I don't know if she was originally stopped behind me the first time and sped up and didn't notice the bus or she was already moving and just preceded to hit me.

Hi-Step'n370Z 05-16-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCarMan (Post 539688)
My theory is that for most people, trying to stop while texting, ......


by my observation, this texting thing is getting way worse than it was just a year ago. So many young drivers, to me seems to be mostly young girls, looking at their texting more than the traffic.

I feel that is maybe the most dangerous thing on the highway. Some days I feel like I am running a gauntlet out there.

dad 05-16-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 539641)
No, but I do believe that it can enter into this equation and my wife has requested that I install it.

Go get your wife, have her read this thread! I'll bet that fog light, will be a brake light before the week is over!:bowrofl:

A brake light in the rear window would be more beneficial.

SoCal 370Z 05-16-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 539725)
A brake light in the rear window would be more beneficial.

Without question. When I find the time to markup some rear photos of the 350Z and the 370Z showing the what I mean, it should be clearer what I am getting at, but you've got it, so I will clarify for others. The fog light is a more definitive shape and placed where on-comers will take better notice, but it can also be a visual nuisance...a Catch-22, by all respects.

Hi-Step'n370Z 05-16-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 539601)
My wife tells me she is constantly leaving space ahead of her so that she can tighten up into the space as vehicles keep getting to close to the Z. This is her number one pet peeve with the Z

I noticed that the first time I drove my Z. After the first few stops I made, the cars behind me seemed really really close. I just figured that it's because there's no back seat in the Z making it shorter, and my Z is lower than most of the cars behind me, and that the car behind me is not really any closer than they would be if I were driving a "longer" and "higher" car.

After that, I stopped paying attention to it. Now I am going to check it out again and see just what's going on with this.

There are those who have really weird driving habits, and stopping right up on your butt is one of them, regardless of what you drive.

Hi-Step'n370Z 05-16-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 539735)
Without question. When I find the time to markup some rear photos of the 350Z and the 370Z showing the what I mean, it should be clearer what I am getting at, but you've got it, so I will clarify for others. The fog light is a more definitive shape and placed where on-comers will take better notice, but it can also be a visual nuisance...a Catch-22, by all respects.

I look forward to seeing your idea.

dad 05-16-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 539735)
Without question. When I find the time to markup some rear photos of the 350Z and the 370Z showing the what I mean, it should be clearer what I am getting at, but you've got it, so I will clarify for others. The fog light is a more definitive shape and placed where on-comers will take better notice, but it can also be a visual nuisance...a Catch-22, by all respects.

Here's one that may help.

esfourteen 05-16-2010 11:47 PM

how eerie it was to read this thread after posting mine a few days ago

theGreatGW 05-17-2010 02:17 AM

ouch.... i think there is a hit on the 40th z's

DarkPath 05-17-2010 07:19 AM

My two cents...

I don't know the causation of increased numbers of accidents involving the 370Z vice the 350... While your premise may have better than 50/50 accuracy, I would say it only holds true for rear-end collisions when the 370 is stopped. I suspect more data would need be collected to determine if the numbers of 370 accidents to date were weighted more heavily toward rear end collision or otherwise.

Having said that... If indeed it is found that rear end collisions have a higher incidence of occurrence and that the actuary tables indicate an increased risk: It does make the case for Driving the 370, vice ever stopping for a light or a sign...

I'd be happy to start a federal petition (in another thread) in the hope that enough grass-roots signatures would result in making the 370Z exempt from all penalty when Rolling (for safety's sake) stop-signs and red lights. Also known as the "California Stop" or the "Massachusetts Ooze" perhaps we can cut down on the number of accidents involving the 370Z. Personally, I feel we would be delivering a public service.

I'll cite the obvious engineering fault only recently discovered that has created a visual impairment and obvious increased risk to our fellow enthusiasts - indeed - the public at Large...

Before I go through the effort and lengthy process of drafting and preparing the bill - Is there any interest?

J-BoneZ 06-05-2010 07:09 PM

Just got my car back from the shop 2 ago days but I need someones help because I cant remember for the life of me. On the rear bumper of the car where the 2 indention's are on that black trim piece can anyone tell me if there are caps that are supposed to go in those 2 indention's. Because if I look down in them I can see the the ground underneath the car. I know that they already messed it up because they painted that piece the same color as the car and I know it should be left black. Any help is greatly appreciated.

esfourteen 06-06-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by J-BoneZ (Post 565004)
Just got my car back from the shop 2 ago days but I need someones help because I cant remember for the life of me. On the rear bumper of the car where the 2 indention's are on that black trim piece can anyone tell me if there are caps that are supposed to go in those 2 indention's. Because if I look down in them I can see the the ground underneath the car. I know that they already messed it up because they painted that piece the same color as the car and I know it should be left black. Any help is greatly appreciated.

If I understand you correctly, I believe those indentations are for the little rubber stops on the hatch to help it seal tightly and not rattle. Sorry to hear you aren't happy with the paint, hope you get it worked out quickly.

I should have my 40th back middle of this week :driving:

J-BoneZ 06-06-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 565417)
If I understand you correctly, I believe those indentations are for the little rubber stops on the hatch to help it seal tightly and not rattle. Sorry to hear you aren't happy with the paint, hope you get it worked out quickly.

I should have my 40th back middle of this week :driving:

Yep that's exactly what I'm talking about. The only thing that I can think those 2 small holes are there for is so that any water that gets in there can drain out.

LMBmikeZ 06-06-2010 11:14 AM

This is shitty news to hear of so many rear end collisions already to our 40th's.

I am all for never stopping that sounds like the best answer.......JK I have the Canadian model so I just throw the fog on 24/7 dusk to dawn, and so far I seem to be getting good distance from the public 90%time but there's always a few A$$ holes

spearfish25 06-06-2010 01:12 PM

Am I interested in supporting some kind of legislature that would make me exempt from having to come to a complete stop? F yeah!

370zproject 01-03-2011 10:04 AM

pics?

Niche79 02-22-2011 03:30 PM

Mmmm that really sucks, heres my 2 cents, no one cares to hit your old car...lol but if you have a new one, lets hit them!!! woo I have my old 91 lude as my DD and I park it wherever in walmart parking lots and what not and never get door dings or people whipping out in front of me etc! However when I drive my newer cars Ill park 2 miles out and come out and have ppl parked right next to me with shitty cars and I get a random door ding...which leads to their car getting keyed *cough cough* and I cant tell you the times ive had ppl whip out in front of me and make me go offroad etc to dodge an accident....what this means is that you have such a beautiful car that people wana get close to you to check it out...and in doing so screw it up!!! I know this post is old but I hope they did a good job. I love the 40th's color.

HKYStormFront 02-22-2011 03:52 PM

i agree with this^^ i never had an issue with any kind of collisions or accidents until i bought my truck brand new. since then it's been hit and run 3 times :( sorry to hear OP, thankfully it's repairable apparently.

Rui Z 02-22-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Niche79 (Post 952916)
Mmmm that really sucks, heres my 2 cents, no one cares to hit your old car...lol but if you have a new one, lets hit them!!! woo I have my old 91 lude as my DD and I park it wherever in walmart parking lots and what not and never get door dings or people whipping out in front of me etc! However when I drive my newer cars Ill park 2 miles out and come out and have ppl parked right next to me with shitty cars and I get a random door ding...which leads to their car getting keyed *cough cough* and I cant tell you the times ive had ppl whip out in front of me and make me go offroad etc to dodge an accident....what this means is that you have such a beautiful car that people wana get close to you to check it out...and in doing so screw it up!!! I know this post is old but I hope they did a good job. I love the 40th's color.

You sir are a DOUCHEBAG!!! I hope someone finds you in the act next time and beats the **** out of you.

NYBladeZ 02-22-2011 06:39 PM

This is why I always loved loud exhausts, more times then not people will hear me and then see me, greatly reducing the chances of inattentive collisions.

younter 02-22-2011 09:30 PM

you are wrong...The title does not belongs to you...
glad that you are ok

Niche79 02-23-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 952956)
You sir are a DOUCHEBAG!!! I hope someone finds you in the act next time and beats the **** out of you.

screw with my car, I screw with yours, nuff said. Just like if someone hits your car, you want them to get stuck with the bill to get it fixed! Same diff...but thanks for those kind words, they put a smile on my face:icon18:


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